You wanna talk pathetic attendance?

[McPeachy]

Look at the AFA vs. Nevada game (and stands) last Saturday. Not counting cadets, I would guess there were 2,000 there. For an AFA team that was 7 & 2 against a Nevada team that was 6 & 3, with Mountain division title implications on the line. Holy poop that was bad. For a city of more than 400,000 - an immediate area of more than 700,000 - and a 70 mile radius of millions...THAT is what I would call pathetic.

*Reported attendance (butts in seats) was 11,519

[BeaverPoke]

This is why the MWC is irrelevant. I was going to say "becoming irrelevant" but let's not kid ourselves, the process is done and we are irrelevant now.
Thank goodness we brought in a bunch of WAC programs to replace 3 powerhouse programs.

[WestWYOPoke]

As opposed to...?

Staying at 6? Disbanding?? Not sure what other options the MW had.

I guess we should have invited Texas and Oklahoma to join.

[ragtimejoe1]

This is why the MWC is irrelevant. I was going to say "becoming irrelevant" but let's not kid ourselves, the process is done and we are irrelevant now.
Thank goodness we brought in a bunch of WAC programs to replace 3 powerhouse programs.

Attendance is not why the MWC is irrelevant. Attendance is a symptom of why the MWC is irrelevant.

TV marketability is the biggest factor and we don't have it. Our leaders need to start acknowledging this and playing the class warfare card. It seems to resonate right now. There is no more "un-American" system than the P5 mentality. "You aren't rich enough, prestigious enough, or have enough of a royal lineage (i.e. history) to be allowed to compete".

If you cut through the b.s., that is what they are telling us. For some reason we accept that as an acceptable reality. We should be hammering away at the message "We are only asking for the opportunity to compete. In today's society, now more than ever, our Universities should stand as beacon of hope and demonstrate that all have the opportunity to succeed with hard work. Not just the wealthy or those with history that is deemed more important than others."

[McPeachy]

This is why the MWC is irrelevant. I was going to say "becoming irrelevant" but let's not kid ourselves, the process is done and we are irrelevant now.
Thank goodness we brought in a bunch of WAC programs to replace 3 powerhouse programs.

I don't know about that Beaver...

Makes me vomit that you think bWHYu and Utard are powerhouse programs though. I will give you TCU, but that stadium only holds 40K - and without the current run (Patterson), it wouldn't be filled at that. The gaps between relevant and irrelevant are continually widening. There are about 30 or so football programs that will survive the USA - NCAA Armageddon. Wyoming isn't one of those (neither is Oregon State by the way) - so we may as well call it what it is, and let the 30 or so slide off to become the NFLite, and the remaining 80 - 90 compete at a true and somewhat equal collegiate level.

[BeaverPoke]

This is why the MWC is irrelevant. I was going to say "becoming irrelevant" but let's not kid ourselves, the process is done and we are irrelevant now.
Thank goodness we brought in a bunch of WAC programs to replace 3 powerhouse programs.

I don't know about that Beaver...

Makes me vomit that you think bWHYu and Utard are powerhouse programs though. I will give you TCU, but that stadium only holds 40K - and without the current run (Patterson), it wouldn't be filled at that. The gaps between relevant and irrelevant are continually widening. There are about 30 or so football programs that will survive the USA - NCAA Armageddon. Wyoming isn't one of those (neither is Oregon State by the way) - so we may as well call it what it is, and let the 30 or so slide off to become the NFLite, and the remaining 80 - 90 compete at a true and somewhat equal collegiate level.

This isn't football of yesteryear peach, no one cares about who wasn't good back then. The fact Utah has 2 BCS Bowl wins this century and is ranked in a P5 conference equates to powerhouse in the sense of haves versus have nots. Byu could have been a have but they decided to become a have not.
It's not that there's 30 or so programs that are going to survive. It's p5 versus the rest.
that's why utah and tcu (and oregon state) are fine. Mwc? Nope.

[BackHarlowRoad]

This is why the MWC is irrelevant. I was going to say "becoming irrelevant" but let's not kid ourselves, the process is done and we are irrelevant now.
Thank goodness we brought in a bunch of WAC programs to replace 3 powerhouse programs.

I like WWP's question.

What else would you have had MWC do? Inviting the better WAC schools was our only option.

[kansasCowboy]

Did we forget Eastern Mich? 30k stadium,'and they avg 3-4k a game.

[BeaverPoke]

This is why the MWC is irrelevant. I was going to say "becoming irrelevant" but let's not kid ourselves, the process is done and we are irrelevant now.
Thank goodness we brought in a bunch of WAC programs to replace 3 powerhouse programs.

I like WWP's question.

What else would you have had MWC do? Inviting the better WAC schools was our only option.

Nothing we could have done, it just cemented the MWC as a lower-tier conference.

I said that very tongue in cheek not bashing the MWC for doing it but more of a "Great! That's our only choice! So awesome!"

[Brew_Poke]

This is why the MWC is irrelevant. I was going to say "becoming irrelevant" but let's not kid ourselves, the process is done and we are irrelevant now.
Thank goodness we brought in a bunch of WAC programs to replace 3 powerhouse programs.

UU was no powerhouse, neither was TCU. They both had perfect timing, and sort of lucked out. TCU was good 50 years ago, when Wyoming was good, then got good again under Patterson. Utah was good after the Olympics resulted in expanding their stadium, and they fired McBride and hired Urban Legend.

BYU has had the attendance and support and winning to be considered a 'major' or powerhouse for 35 years.

[McPeachy]

Nothing we could have done, it just cemented the MWC as a lower-tier conference.

I said that very tongue in cheek not bashing the MWC for doing it but more of a "Great! That's our only choice! So awesome!"

Worst part is, Dickface still couldn't compete in the "watered down" MWC. That piece of poop.

[johnywyo]

Lets just start a THREAD: BEAVERS BITCH ZONE

That way I can avoid reading all this insidious bull poop.
There is nothing, absolutely nothing gratifying about his observations anymore.

Closed case.

[Wyovanian]

This is why the MWC is irrelevant. I was going to say "becoming irrelevant" but let's not kid ourselves, the process is done and we are irrelevant now.
Thank goodness we brought in a bunch of WAC programs to replace 3 powerhouse programs.

UU was no powerhouse, neither was TCU. They both had perfect timing, and sort of lucked out. TCU was good 50 years ago, when Wyoming was good, then got good again under Patterson. Utah was good after the Olympics resulted in expanding their stadium, and they fired McBride and hired Urban Legend.

BYU has had the attendance and support and winning to be considered a 'major' or powerhouse for 35 years.

As of right now, good chance TCU is in the playoff.

[fromolwyoming]

This is why the MWC is irrelevant. I was going to say "becoming irrelevant" but let's not kid ourselves, the process is done and we are irrelevant now.
Thank goodness we brought in a bunch of WAC programs to replace 3 powerhouse programs.

UU was no powerhouse, neither was TCU. They both had perfect timing, and sort of lucked out. TCU was good 50 years ago, when Wyoming was good, then got good again under Patterson. Utah was good after the Olympics resulted in expanding their stadium, and they fired McBride and hired Urban Legend.

BYU has had the attendance and support and winning to be considered a 'major' or powerhouse for 35 years.

As of right now, good chance TCU is in the playoff.

TCU's problems the last couple of years was severe lack of depth and experience. They had something like 20 players kicked out due to testing positive for drugs. A lot of them on the 1 and 2 deep. This year is more like the TCU teams before that happened.

[BeaverPoke]

Lets just start a THREAD: BEAVERS BITCH ZONE

That way I can avoid reading all this insidious bull poop.
There is nothing, absolutely nothing gratifying about his observations anymore.

Closed case.

Hey dingus, I didn't even start this thread. Just threw in my opinion. And the beauty of forums is that if you don't want to read my posts, don't come to Wyonation. You know I am going to be here commenting.

[Brew_Poke]

This is why the MWC is irrelevant. I was going to say "becoming irrelevant" but let's not kid ourselves, the process is done and we are irrelevant now.
Thank goodness we brought in a bunch of WAC programs to replace 3 powerhouse programs.

UU was no powerhouse, neither was TCU. They both had perfect timing, and sort of lucked out. TCU was good 50 years ago, when Wyoming was good, then got good again under Patterson. Utah was good after the Olympics resulted in expanding their stadium, and they fired McBride and hired Urban Legend.

BYU has had the attendance and support and winning to be considered a 'major' or powerhouse for 35 years.

As of right now, good chance TCU is in the playoff.

Yes, they got good under Patterson, as I stated.

[lakesbison]

ive been pounding the NDSU TO FBS drums for 2-3 years now, but the distractors all point to MAC & MWC actual attendences and say "why would NDSU leave a 20,000 seat packed stadium every weekend"

I hope that attendence will start to rise again in the MWC/MAC