NDSU

Sat Jan 10, 2015 3:32 pm

joshvanklomp wrote: I pretty much agree. However, I think the program would struggle on the basketball side the most.

Every new team does. Nevada and Utah State have long traditions of success....they join the MW, neither has performed well. There is a reason the MW isn't considered a "mid-major" in basketball.

Sat Jan 10, 2015 4:07 pm

NDSU would have been bottom half of the MWC

Sat Jan 10, 2015 11:11 pm

NDSU would be top 3 mwc easily Cmon guys it's a program a mindset of success. You can't teach that. 22 more full rides would really help!!

58-3 4 titles 4 FBS wins 6 nfl players and I can't even explain to you how amazing the closeness of the players are. It's a family.

Ps. Ndsu basketball is really good 11-5 now. Big dance win last year and with $46 million arena will continue to be good.

Sat Jan 10, 2015 11:30 pm

lakesbison wrote:NDSU would be top 3 mwc easily Cmon guys it's a program a mindset of success. You can't teach that. 22 more full rides would really help!!

58-3 4 titles 4 FBS wins 6 nfl players and I can't even explain to you how amazing the closeness of the players are. It's a family.

Ps. Ndsu basketball is really good 11-5 now. Big dance win last year and with $46 million arena will continue to be good.

Lol ndsu might be successful in the mwc after 3 or 4 years. They might hit a bowl game in year 1 or 2 but once teams figured them out they would get exposed for what they are. Fcs. D2. Not fbs. D1.

Also... feel free to tell me fcs is d1... it never gets old.

Sat Jan 10, 2015 11:34 pm

And you realize the recruiting would take a step back relative to your competition?
Kids go to ndsu for the same reason they go to bama... they dominate at their levels. Wait til you have to recruit fbs players when you are a nobody in the fbs world. How is it working for Appy State?

Sun Jan 11, 2015 10:49 am

BeaverPoke wrote:Lol ndsu might be successful in the mwc after 3 or 4 years. They might hit a bowl game in year 1 or 2 but once teams figured them out they would get exposed for what they are. Fcs. D2. Not fbs. D1.

Also... feel free to tell me fcs is d1... it never gets old.

If you think FCS is the same as Division II, you are clueless as to the divisional structure of the NCAA.

Sun Jan 11, 2015 11:52 am

BeaverPoke wrote:And you realize the recruiting would take a step back relative to your competition?
Kids go to ndsu for the same reason they go to bama... they dominate at their levels. Wait til you have to recruit fbs players when you are a nobody in the fbs world. How is it working for Appy State?

Appy state had a good first year in FBS and never dominated FCS either

Sun Jan 11, 2015 12:35 pm

billings wrote: Appy state had a good first year in FBS and never dominated FCS either

What? App State once won the FCS title 3 years running.

Sun Jan 11, 2015 12:37 pm

billings wrote:
BeaverPoke wrote:And you realize the recruiting would take a step back relative to your competition?
Kids go to ndsu for the same reason they go to bama... they dominate at their levels. Wait til you have to recruit fbs players when you are a nobody in the fbs world. How is it working for Appy State?

Appy state had a good first year in FBS and never dominated FCS either

So did Georgia Southern...they won the Sun Belt Conference title. Couldn't go to a bowl though due to their transition to FBS status.

Sun Jan 11, 2015 12:55 pm

J-Rod wrote:
billings wrote: Appy state had a good first year in FBS and never dominated FCS either
What? App State once won the FCS title 3 years running.

And they did beat Michigan at the Big House in 2007.

Sun Jan 11, 2015 8:16 pm

J-Rod wrote:
billings wrote: Appy state had a good first year in FBS and never dominated FCS either
What? App State once won the FCS title 3 years running.

How long ago did they do that? Point is they moved up while not winning the FCS in quite awhile

Sun Jan 11, 2015 8:22 pm

billings wrote:How long ago did they do that? Point is they moved up while not winning the FCS in quite awhile

2005-2007

Mon Jan 12, 2015 12:01 am

joshvanklomp wrote:
BeaverPoke wrote:Lol ndsu might be successful in the mwc after 3 or 4 years. They might hit a bowl game in year 1 or 2 but once teams figured them out they would get exposed for what they are. Fcs. D2. Not fbs. D1.

Also... feel free to tell me fcs is d1... it never gets old.
If you think FCS is the same as Division II, you are clueless as to the divisional structure of the NCAA.

I don't think it's the same. I know the difference. Trust me, the structure of college football is not a mystery to me. I just love when someone calls it d2 and ndsu fans lose their poop over it.

Mon Jan 12, 2015 8:12 am

The MWC is so bad right now, most any team would challenge for at least middle of the pack. I too doubt NDSU would be top 3, but after that, who the heck knows. It was a garbled mess of a bunch of mediocre or worse teams.

Mon Jan 12, 2015 10:13 am

NDSU - on Wyonation. Wrong board.

Mon Jan 12, 2015 2:41 pm

BeaverPoke wrote:
joshvanklomp wrote:
BeaverPoke wrote:Lol ndsu might be successful in the mwc after 3 or 4 years. They might hit a bowl game in year 1 or 2 but once teams figured them out they would get exposed for what they are. Fcs. D2. Not fbs. D1.

Also... feel free to tell me fcs is d1... it never gets old.
If you think FCS is the same as Division II, you are clueless as to the divisional structure of the NCAA.
I don't think it's the same. I know the difference. Trust me, the structure of college football is not a mystery to me. I just love when someone calls it d2 and ndsu fans lose their poop over it.

True D-1 championship is between Oregon and Ohio State. The idea that they call the FCS championship a D-1 championship is for the developmentally disabled.

Another point:

NDSU's athletic budget is $18,702,969. UND's is $22,077,150 (Hockey is the difference..but it also is a big revenue stream for them.) Colorado State University, $34,468,927

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/ ... /finances/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Wyoming is at $27,800,441

http://collegead.org/college-athletic-d ... t-budgets/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It would take more than a little fundraising to get those schools to the FBS level. I think NDSU has the best shot with their market and current success. But, they have to think D-1 to be D-1.

Mon Jan 12, 2015 3:37 pm

Hayduke wrote: True D-1 championship is between Oregon and Ohio State. The idea that they call the FCS championship a D-1 championship is for the developmentally disabled.

So if UND were to make the NCAA Basketball Tournament (I know, but humor me for a second), and somehow win the title, do we still call that the D1 championship?

Mon Jan 12, 2015 3:49 pm

joshvanklomp wrote:
Hayduke wrote: True D-1 championship is between Oregon and Ohio State. The idea that they call the FCS championship a D-1 championship is for the developmentally disabled.
So if UND were to make the NCAA Basketball Tournament (I know, but humor me for a second), and somehow win the title, do we still call that the D1 championship?

For hoops.

Real D1 in football is FBS

Mon Jan 12, 2015 5:05 pm

BeaverPoke wrote:
joshvanklomp wrote:
Hayduke wrote: True D-1 championship is between Oregon and Ohio State. The idea that they call the FCS championship a D-1 championship is for the developmentally disabled.
So if UND were to make the NCAA Basketball Tournament (I know, but humor me for a second), and somehow win the title, do we still call that the D1 championship?
For hoops.

Real D1 in football is FBS

Bingo.

Mon Jan 12, 2015 5:20 pm

joshvanklomp wrote:
Hayduke wrote: True D-1 championship is between Oregon and Ohio State. The idea that they call the FCS championship a D-1 championship is for the developmentally disabled.
So if UND were to make the NCAA Basketball Tournament (I know, but humor me for a second), and somehow win the title, do we still call that the D1 championship?

There isn't a difference in bball...come on man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!