ItSucksToBeACSURam wrote:McPeachy wrote:ItSucksToBeACSURam wrote:McPeachy wrote:Poke in Billings wrote:No comparison was made. Just responding to your what 9+ years means.
Gotcha...9 years this day and age, not being a hard working SOB, and a visionary, is a travesty of epic proportions.
How do you know he isn't hard working? How do you know he lacks vision? just because the university and athletics don't change at a rate YOU deem necessary doesn't equate to either accusation....Libel much?
Libel much? Give me a f-word break, seriously man.
Let me ask you (in response)...where is the vision and hard work you have so obviously witnessed? I don't see it.
I see the Glenn firing, McClain firing, Schroyer hiring, Schroyer extension, Schroyer mid-year firing, DC hiring, DC extension, DC firing, a half-assed completed basketball arena, no attention to detail or accountability when it comes to up-keep of facilities and such, the mantra that we are better off - now that we are competing in a conference that has lower athletic budgets - sans bWHYu, Utah, TCU, (rather than to aspire to grow ours to that level), a lame-assed athletics plan filled with TBA's and TBD's, some clear lack of institutional control with coaches and fellow staff, and a losing athletics program
pretty much across the board. Do you want more "
LIBEL" than that?
I am in no way saying saying Ive witnessed anything. But Im also not the one saying he's lazy and has no vision.
That being said....
1. You're pissed at him for firing Glenn? So should he have extended him....? And McClain?
1A. Shroyer we all can admit was a dud both times.
1B. DC was heralded as a huge "get" for UW. Only time tells us that he sucked. He can't be blamed for attracting one of the best available coaches at the time.
2. A half assed completed basketball arena? You obviously have never worked construction. Delays and overages happen. That cannot be avoided. The arena is on track to be completed by next season with work commencing as soon as this season is over.
3. No attention to detail on facilities? We have some of the nicest facilities in the country and the ones that are lacking are already in the schedule for renovation.
4. Our stance in the conference can't be attributed to any one thing or person. Outside of BSU, tell me one school really kicking ass and taking names?
5. What would you prefer the athletic plan look like? There was a hard date on the Arena that was missed and you want to blow him up for it. You blow him up when he leaves the plan vague and speculative. Doesn't sound like you really know what you want...
Well, allow me again to retort.
At the end of the day, we are all WYO fans...I am just not a Burman fan, and you are, so we will probably forever disagree on all topics related as such.
1. Not pissed necessarily about Glenn firing, but IMO, he should have been given what DC received. Ever think about that? If Glenn had DC's resources...I can only imagine. Rinse and Repeat for McClain. Had McClain had Schroyers resources...
1A. Yep. Burman hired him, extended him, and fired him mid-season. Oh, and as a result of doing so, Burman cost UW millions in ticket revenue. Multiple times over probably. And still counting - even after a MWCT championship.
1B. You obviously never met or talked with Dave Christensen. His personality and demeanor should have been red flags from day minus 1. But the hire happened anyway. Then the extension happened. Which again, cost the university hundreds of thousands in buy out money.
2. Trust me, I have been involved in construction. And I know how to read a construction contract. I know how to write one as well! I love my new cushy seat in the AA. But UW fanned on the renovation...like how many seats they were going to lose, and how many they were actually going to add. And fan important areas - concessions and bathrooms - weren't touched. Hey, ya, the new scoreboards are great...but we had similar (yet smaller) ones in 1982 that were taken down at some point (yet the brackets still remain - which look nice). So, again from a fan perspective, I was not impressed - and thus, think the renovation was half-assed. I will wait with baited breathe to see what round 2 will actually bring. I am banking it will be 1/2 of the original plan.
3. Facilities
up-keep thoughts: I hate the under-stadium storage. I hate the lower west side concessions. I hate the fact the Wildcatter wasn't taken to the edges of the upper east side. I hate the pressbox - and everything about it. I hate the fact that tailgating is allowed in the IPF on a million dollar piece of turf. I hate the overflowing dumpsters in the parking areas 3 days after game days. I hate the piles of puke that have been left to rot on the south side of the fieldhouse sidewalk (for all to walk by) for several weeks. I hate the torn flags strewn all about Laramie. I hate the way the Ford lot landscaping looks (dirt / weeds). I could go on...but details are not a strong point with the current administration. That was my point.
4. Our stance in the conference sucks. It sucked less actually, when the top three were still in the same conference with us. We suck more now, in a less competitive conference (football) - and have since they left. As Burman was quoted saying and believing, he was glad to now be in a conference that has similar budgets, than to have to (grow) and compete with those 3 with such higher budgets. I am not making that up - surely you do remember.
5. The athletics plan...should have at the very least, some teeth to it. I.E. - some goals and objectives, some vision, some commitment, something that shouts "Hey, we are going to be relevant in 5 years!" not something that says, "well, I hope and wish...". If I handed my boss a work plan and budget that incorporated a bunch of TBA's and TBD's - again, I would be out on my ass (and should be). I clearly know what I want. As you (or somebody else) referred to, I want the modern-day Red Jacoby as my AD. I want somebody that is willing to take chances to create excitement...to foster a large, and larger continually growing fan base. I want UW and Wyoming athletics to actually HAVE a future, and not have to dwell on the past. I want UW and Wyoming (in it's entirety) to look back in 15 years and say, wow, can you believe how small and poop we were in 2016? (*After just winning the national championship and with a student enrollment of 30,000).
/rant for now
Alright, alright, touche'.