Chad with a blog on bowl projections today:
http://www.wyonation.com/2016/10/2016-m ... ojections/
2016 Mountain West Bowl Projections
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Although it'd be great to be in any bowl, I really have no desire to go back to New Mexico for the 3rd time.
I really hope Boise gets to the Cotton Bowl, that way SDSU will (most likely) be selected for the Vegas Bowl. That leaves us with a pretty good chance of being selected for the bowl in San Diego against BYU. That game would be huge for our fan base for multiple reasons, and I'm sure a lot of older BYU fans would enjoy playing an old rival again.
I also wouldn't mind the Arizona bowl against Idaho. But only because my best friend is an Idaho grad and we can road trip together to support each other as our teams get back to a bowl game after a long hiatus.
I really hope Boise gets to the Cotton Bowl, that way SDSU will (most likely) be selected for the Vegas Bowl. That leaves us with a pretty good chance of being selected for the bowl in San Diego against BYU. That game would be huge for our fan base for multiple reasons, and I'm sure a lot of older BYU fans would enjoy playing an old rival again.
I also wouldn't mind the Arizona bowl against Idaho. But only because my best friend is an Idaho grad and we can road trip together to support each other as our teams get back to a bowl game after a long hiatus.
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Is the Arizona bowl even televised?cali2wyo wrote:Although it'd be great to be in any bowl, I really have no desire to go back to New Mexico for the 3rd time.
I really hope Boise gets to the Cotton Bowl, that way SDSU will (most likely) be selected for the Vegas Bowl. That leaves us with a pretty good chance of being selected for the bowl in San Diego against BYU. That game would be huge for our fan base for multiple reasons, and I'm sure a lot of older BYU fans would enjoy playing an old rival again.
I also wouldn't mind the Arizona bowl against Idaho. But only because my best friend is an Idaho grad and we can road trip together to support each other as our teams get back to a bowl game after a long hiatus.
I don't think so, just streaming/Twitter. But let's not pretend that a televised game against Old Dominion in New Mexico would be significantly better than a matchup with Idaho down in ArizonaMrTitleist wrote:Is the Arizona bowl even televised?cali2wyo wrote:Although it'd be great to be in any bowl, I really have no desire to go back to New Mexico for the 3rd time.
I really hope Boise gets to the Cotton Bowl, that way SDSU will (most likely) be selected for the Vegas Bowl. That leaves us with a pretty good chance of being selected for the bowl in San Diego against BYU. That game would be huge for our fan base for multiple reasons, and I'm sure a lot of older BYU fans would enjoy playing an old rival again.
I also wouldn't mind the Arizona bowl against Idaho. But only because my best friend is an Idaho grad and we can road trip together to support each other as our teams get back to a bowl game after a long hiatus.
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Well, there's the probability that the televised NM Bowl would pay significantly better, get viewers across a few time zones, and be a lot more accessible to folks who can't make the trip. Other than that, nothing "significantly" better...cali2wyo wrote:I don't think so, just streaming/Twitter. But let's not pretend that a televised game against Old Dominion in New Mexico would be significantly better than a matchup with Idaho down in ArizonaMrTitleist wrote:Is the Arizona bowl even televised?cali2wyo wrote:Although it'd be great to be in any bowl, I really have no desire to go back to New Mexico for the 3rd time.
I really hope Boise gets to the Cotton Bowl, that way SDSU will (most likely) be selected for the Vegas Bowl. That leaves us with a pretty good chance of being selected for the bowl in San Diego against BYU. That game would be huge for our fan base for multiple reasons, and I'm sure a lot of older BYU fans would enjoy playing an old rival again.
I also wouldn't mind the Arizona bowl against Idaho. But only because my best friend is an Idaho grad and we can road trip together to support each other as our teams get back to a bowl game after a long hiatus.
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Gotta be honest- if we get invited to play BYU*, I won't even watch. In fact, I'd be lobbying for donors to buy the game out. I hate the thought of legitimizing anything BYU*. Let them wither and die in independence.cali2wyo wrote:Although it'd be great to be in any bowl, I really have no desire to go back to New Mexico for the 3rd time.
I really hope Boise gets to the Cotton Bowl, that way SDSU will (most likely) be selected for the Vegas Bowl. That leaves us with a pretty good chance of being selected for the bowl in San Diego against BYU. That game would be huge for our fan base for multiple reasons, and I'm sure a lot of older BYU fans would enjoy playing an old rival again.
I also wouldn't mind the Arizona bowl against Idaho. But only because my best friend is an Idaho grad and we can road trip together to support each other as our teams get back to a bowl game after a long hiatus.
Playing a soon-to-be FCS program in an internet-streamed bowl game? No thanks. I'll take an up-and-coming FBS team from the South in a nationally televised bowl game every time.
As for the LV Bowl- if it came down to us or SDSU, with the possibility of SDSU staying home for a bowl game, there's a good chance we'd get the nod. Wyoming, historically, travels more fans to LV than the Aztecs. If the Aztecs were more interested in a San Diego-based bowl game, I could see the LV Bowl being ours...
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Definitely. Nevada's having a down year, and despite that, I'm worried about them being hyper-motivated to give us payback from last year when we shouldn't have had a chance. This game should be won by Wyoming, but if we don't come out 100% ready, it could still get ugly.laxwyo wrote:Let's all play the games first
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All net revenue from the bowls is shared equally in the conference and the payouts for either bowl look to be under $500k, so I don't think any bowl besides Vegas or Cotton Bowl will pay "significantly" better. The New Mexico bowl is on ESPN but will overlap with 3 other bowls. If the Arizona bowl is on Twitter, I'd assume many more fans will check in to see that game. Arizona Bowl is accessible to everyone with an Internet connection, so fans who can't make the trip can still easily watch. The team would also get an extra 2 weeks of practice with the Arizona Bowl, which could really set us up well for next year.Wyovanian wrote:Well, there's the probability that the televised NM Bowl would pay significantly better, get viewers across a few time zones, and be a lot more accessible to folks who can't make the trip. Other than that, nothing "significantly" better...cali2wyo wrote:I don't think so, just streaming/Twitter. But let's not pretend that a televised game against Old Dominion in New Mexico would be significantly better than a matchup with Idaho down in ArizonaMrTitleist wrote:Is the Arizona bowl even televised?cali2wyo wrote:Although it'd be great to be in any bowl, I really have no desire to go back to New Mexico for the 3rd time.
I really hope Boise gets to the Cotton Bowl, that way SDSU will (most likely) be selected for the Vegas Bowl. That leaves us with a pretty good chance of being selected for the bowl in San Diego against BYU. That game would be huge for our fan base for multiple reasons, and I'm sure a lot of older BYU fans would enjoy playing an old rival again.
I also wouldn't mind the Arizona bowl against Idaho. But only because my best friend is an Idaho grad and we can road trip together to support each other as our teams get back to a bowl game after a long hiatus.
After Vegas, all the remaining MWC bowls are on the same tier, IMO.
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Yeah all of this. I LOVE that this is thread and that long term football sufferers can now get excited. If there ever was a 1 game at a time team it is forever Wyoming football. Biggest bummer is the Granderson injury. I feel like with him I'd be a lot more confident going forward. Still they could be just fine, especially if the O really starts to get going. They have more hiccups then they need to and I'm really looking forward to a big breakout-moment game for them posting TD's all day. Let's hope it's Nevada!!!! Now imagine if the Pokes put up 45+ on Nevada with a strong/respectable D showing. All of sudden a win against Boise doesn't seem like it's in Never Never land. Beat Boise your talking about a top 50 program, conference title, and top MWC bowl honorsAsmodeanreborn wrote:Definitely. Nevada's having a down year, and despite that, I'm worried about them being hyper-motivated to give us payback from last year when we shouldn't have had a chance. This game should be won by Wyoming, but if we don't come out 100% ready, it could still get ugly.laxwyo wrote:Let's all play the games first
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A bowl game on Twitter/stream is easy for people like us. Not your dads and grandpas who have no idea what the Twitters are and emails you in all caps.cali2wyo wrote:All net revenue from the bowls is shared equally in the conference and the payouts for either bowl look to be under $500k, so I don't think any bowl besides Vegas or Cotton Bowl will pay "significantly" better. The New Mexico bowl is on ESPN but will overlap with 3 other bowls. If the Arizona bowl is on Twitter, I'd assume many more fans will check in to see that game. Arizona Bowl is accessible to everyone with an Internet connection, so fans who can't make the trip can still easily watch. The team would also get an extra 2 weeks of practice with the Arizona Bowl, which could really set us up well for next year.
After Vegas, all the remaining MWC bowls are on the same tier, IMO.
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Sorry, but internet-only games get vastly fewer viewers than the televised games. Don't know if you're familiar with Wyoming's demographics (aged population skews high) or the unreliable internet service throughout much of the state. Even if the payout is close, a televised NM Bowl game against an up-and-comer from the East Coast/ South vs. a streamed AZ Bowl against a down-and-outer 2nd tier school from Idaho is easily the better choice.cali2wyo wrote:All net revenue from the bowls is shared equally in the conference and the payouts for either bowl look to be under $500k, so I don't think any bowl besides Vegas or Cotton Bowl will pay "significantly" better. The New Mexico bowl is on ESPN but will overlap with 3 other bowls. If the Arizona bowl is on Twitter, I'd assume many more fans will check in to see that game. Arizona Bowl is accessible to everyone with an Internet connection, so fans who can't make the trip can still easily watch. The team would also get an extra 2 weeks of practice with the Arizona Bowl, which could really set us up well for next year.Wyovanian wrote:Well, there's the probability that the televised NM Bowl would pay significantly better, get viewers across a few time zones, and be a lot more accessible to folks who can't make the trip. Other than that, nothing "significantly" better...cali2wyo wrote:I don't think so, just streaming/Twitter. But let's not pretend that a televised game against Old Dominion in New Mexico would be significantly better than a matchup with Idaho down in ArizonaMrTitleist wrote:Is the Arizona bowl even televised?cali2wyo wrote:Although it'd be great to be in any bowl, I really have no desire to go back to New Mexico for the 3rd time.
I really hope Boise gets to the Cotton Bowl, that way SDSU will (most likely) be selected for the Vegas Bowl. That leaves us with a pretty good chance of being selected for the bowl in San Diego against BYU. That game would be huge for our fan base for multiple reasons, and I'm sure a lot of older BYU fans would enjoy playing an old rival again.
I also wouldn't mind the Arizona bowl against Idaho. But only because my best friend is an Idaho grad and we can road trip together to support each other as our teams get back to a bowl game after a long hiatus.
After Vegas, all the remaining MWC bowls are on the same tier, IMO.
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Agree to disagree. Neither bowl would be the best thing to ever happen to our program, and when you're the 3rd or 4th choice in a lousy conference a perfect bowl is a long shot. The advantages of one bowl over the other are hard to argue since both bowls are so small. If you look back at my original post, I mentioned the Arizona bowl because of how great it could be for a friend and I to have a road trip for reasons that seemed impossible to the both of us at the start of the year. We already had the NM bowl with an "up-and-coming" Temple, I didn't have enough fun to want to travel to Albuquerque again for a similar matchup--but I would do it to still support this team. I'm sure you'll travel to any bowl we go to as well (even BYU)Wyovanian wrote:Sorry, but internet-only games get vastly fewer viewers than the televised games. Don't know if you're familiar with Wyoming's demographics (aged population skews high) or the unreliable internet service throughout much of the state. Even if the payout is close, a televised NM Bowl game against an up-and-comer from the East Coast/ South vs. a streamed AZ Bowl against a down-and-outer 2nd tier school from Idaho is easily the better choice.cali2wyo wrote:All net revenue from the bowls is shared equally in the conference and the payouts for either bowl look to be under $500k, so I don't think any bowl besides Vegas or Cotton Bowl will pay "significantly" better. The New Mexico bowl is on ESPN but will overlap with 3 other bowls. If the Arizona bowl is on Twitter, I'd assume many more fans will check in to see that game. Arizona Bowl is accessible to everyone with an Internet connection, so fans who can't make the trip can still easily watch. The team would also get an extra 2 weeks of practice with the Arizona Bowl, which could really set us up well for next year.Wyovanian wrote:Well, there's the probability that the televised NM Bowl would pay significantly better, get viewers across a few time zones, and be a lot more accessible to folks who can't make the trip. Other than that, nothing "significantly" better...cali2wyo wrote:I don't think so, just streaming/Twitter. But let's not pretend that a televised game against Old Dominion in New Mexico would be significantly better than a matchup with Idaho down in ArizonaMrTitleist wrote:Is the Arizona bowl even televised?cali2wyo wrote:Although it'd be great to be in any bowl, I really have no desire to go back to New Mexico for the 3rd time.
I really hope Boise gets to the Cotton Bowl, that way SDSU will (most likely) be selected for the Vegas Bowl. That leaves us with a pretty good chance of being selected for the bowl in San Diego against BYU. That game would be huge for our fan base for multiple reasons, and I'm sure a lot of older BYU fans would enjoy playing an old rival again.
I also wouldn't mind the Arizona bowl against Idaho. But only because my best friend is an Idaho grad and we can road trip together to support each other as our teams get back to a bowl game after a long hiatus.
After Vegas, all the remaining MWC bowls are on the same tier, IMO.
Any bowl game will do. I liked the NM Bowl when it was the first bowl game of the bowl season, as I feel it can give more exposure as the only game in town. On bowl games played later, would we get more practices for this young team?
Yes. There's no limit on the number of practices you can have leading up to a bowl game. The 20-hour per week limit still applies though, even if its winter break.cowboyz wrote: On bowl games played later, would we get more practices for this young team?
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I will attend a BYU* game in the reign of Queen Dick.cali2wyo wrote:Agree to disagree. Neither bowl would be the best thing to ever happen to our program, and when you're the 3rd or 4th choice in a lousy conference a perfect bowl is a long shot. The advantages of one bowl over the other are hard to argue since both bowls are so small. If you look back at my original post, I mentioned the Arizona bowl because of how great it could be for a friend and I to have a road trip for reasons that seemed impossible to the both of us at the start of the year. We already had the NM bowl with an "up-and-coming" Temple, I didn't have enough fun to want to travel to Albuquerque again for a similar matchup--but I would do it to still support this team. I'm sure you'll travel to any bowl we go to as well (even BYU)Wyovanian wrote:Sorry, but internet-only games get vastly fewer viewers than the televised games. Don't know if you're familiar with Wyoming's demographics (aged population skews high) or the unreliable internet service throughout much of the state. Even if the payout is close, a televised NM Bowl game against an up-and-comer from the East Coast/ South vs. a streamed AZ Bowl against a down-and-outer 2nd tier school from Idaho is easily the better choice.cali2wyo wrote:All net revenue from the bowls is shared equally in the conference and the payouts for either bowl look to be under $500k, so I don't think any bowl besides Vegas or Cotton Bowl will pay "significantly" better. The New Mexico bowl is on ESPN but will overlap with 3 other bowls. If the Arizona bowl is on Twitter, I'd assume many more fans will check in to see that game. Arizona Bowl is accessible to everyone with an Internet connection, so fans who can't make the trip can still easily watch. The team would also get an extra 2 weeks of practice with the Arizona Bowl, which could really set us up well for next year.Wyovanian wrote:Well, there's the probability that the televised NM Bowl would pay significantly better, get viewers across a few time zones, and be a lot more accessible to folks who can't make the trip. Other than that, nothing "significantly" better...cali2wyo wrote:I don't think so, just streaming/Twitter. But let's not pretend that a televised game against Old Dominion in New Mexico would be significantly better than a matchup with Idaho down in ArizonaMrTitleist wrote:Is the Arizona bowl even televised?cali2wyo wrote:Although it'd be great to be in any bowl, I really have no desire to go back to New Mexico for the 3rd time.
I really hope Boise gets to the Cotton Bowl, that way SDSU will (most likely) be selected for the Vegas Bowl. That leaves us with a pretty good chance of being selected for the bowl in San Diego against BYU. That game would be huge for our fan base for multiple reasons, and I'm sure a lot of older BYU fans would enjoy playing an old rival again.
I also wouldn't mind the Arizona bowl against Idaho. But only because my best friend is an Idaho grad and we can road trip together to support each other as our teams get back to a bowl game after a long hiatus.
After Vegas, all the remaining MWC bowls are on the same tier, IMO.
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The BYU matchup is a no win for us. They are not affiliated with a conference. They were assigned this bowl well in advance. BYU would be heavy favorites, and I couldn't handle it at church. I couldn't say no enough to this possible game. I would rather play UCLA or Stanford in Vegas. Let SDSU play BYU in SD.
No, no, no and no.
No, no, no and no.
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Maybe you should leave UT?djm19 wrote:The BYU matchup is a no win for us. They are not affiliated with a conference. They were assigned this bowl well in advance. BYU would be heavy favorites, and I couldn't handle it at church. I couldn't say no enough to this possible game. I would rather play UCLA or Stanford in Vegas. Let SDSU play BYU in SD.
No, no, no and no.
Occasionally some leftover bowl-eligible Pac-12 team has played in New Mexico. That's what I'm hoping for. Wyoming vs. a barely eligible Arizona team in Albuquerque, or something like that. That said, brace for Wyoming vs. some MAC school in Boise.
...but let's be real, it's pretty cool that a bowl is even likely. No matter where and who Wyo plays, it should be celebrated.
...but let's be real, it's pretty cool that a bowl is even likely. No matter where and who Wyo plays, it should be celebrated.
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LanderPoke wrote:Maybe you should leave UT?djm19 wrote:The BYU matchup is a no win for us. They are not affiliated with a conference. They were assigned this bowl well in advance. BYU would be heavy favorites, and I couldn't handle it at church. I couldn't say no enough to this possible game. I would rather play UCLA or Stanford in Vegas. Let SDSU play BYU in SD.
No, no, no and no.
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