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Postby YankPoke » Sat Oct 26, 2013 8:09 pm

Tormey should not be let onto the plane home and needs to have his walking papers. DC should be fired at seasons end and we need to send money at Bohl and get him to Laramie.
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Re: Hire Craig Bohl

Postby BeaverPoke » Sat Oct 26, 2013 8:11 pm

YankPoke wrote:Tormey should not be let onto the plane home and needs to have his walking papers. DC should be fired at seasons end and we need to send money at Bohl and get him to Laramie.


Unless something CRAZY happens, I agree.
I'm on board.
To accept mediocrity, we have to become mediocre first. I will be stoked when we become a mediocre program. That's better than what we have been.
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Re: Hire Craig Bohl

Postby ItSucksToBeACSURam » Sat Oct 26, 2013 8:12 pm

For those of you campaigning for Bohl, what has he done that makes you think it'll end any different than Glenn?
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Re: Hire Craig Bohl

Postby BeaverPoke » Sat Oct 26, 2013 8:13 pm

ItSucksToBeACSURam wrote:For those of you campaigning for Bohl, what has he done that makes you think it'll end any different than Glenn?


Beat Kansas State.
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Re: Hire Craig Bohl

Postby SDPokeFan » Sat Oct 26, 2013 8:13 pm

ItSucksToBeACSURam wrote:For those of you campaigning for Bohl, what has he done that makes you think it'll end any different than Glenn?

He could also be the next Jim Tressell. Who knows? He has FBS experience can coach and can obviously recruit kids to a barren place with horrible weather.
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Re: Hire Craig Bohl

Postby YankPoke » Sat Oct 26, 2013 8:14 pm

Also Joe Glenn was always in FCS, Bohl was at least at Nebraska as a DC when they were still good.
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Re: Hire Craig Bohl

Postby J-Rod » Sat Oct 26, 2013 8:15 pm

ItSucksToBeACSURam wrote:For those of you campaigning for Bohl, what has he done that makes you think it'll end any different than Glenn?

There are a lot of similarities between the two....but that does not mean things would be the same as the Glenn era. The man knows how to win big despite geographical disadvantages. I'll take my chances with him as opposed to some assistant from the Pac-12 who will hate Laramie 3 months into his tenure.
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Re: Hire Craig Bohl

Postby NowherePoke » Sat Oct 26, 2013 8:17 pm

He has a great resume. I actually anticipate he will take a higher profile FBS job than Wyoming this year. Reminds me of Tad Boyle in that sense. I felt like we should have fired Schroyer much earlier (like, after the first game he coached, but I digress) and hired Boyle, but we didn't get there in time. If we wanted Bohl, we needed to fire DC last year.

Still, no guarantee that he would succeed here. Glenn and DC both had quality resumes and have been complete failures.
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Re: Hire Craig Bohl

Postby ItSucksToBeACSURam » Sat Oct 26, 2013 8:17 pm

Beat a rebuilding name and that indicates he can recruit d-1 talent? I normally agree with you beav and even drink from the same kool aid chalice but I am not sold on hiring a fcs coach
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Re: Hire Craig Bohl

Postby ItSucksToBeACSURam » Sat Oct 26, 2013 8:20 pm

SDPokeFan wrote:
ItSucksToBeACSURam wrote:For those of you campaigning for Bohl, what has he done that makes you think it'll end any different than Glenn?

He could also be the next Jim Tressell. Who knows? He has FBS experience can coach and can obviously recruit kids to a barren place with horrible weather.

Recruiting to D-2 powerhouse isn't quite the same as recruiting to D-1 Laramie... We've seen what D-2 talent at this level looks like.... I agree he could go on to be the next Saban but he could just as easily become the next Vic Koennig
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Re: Hire Craig Bohl

Postby Wyokie » Sat Oct 26, 2013 9:24 pm

BeaverPoke wrote:
YankPoke wrote:Tormey should not be let onto the plane home and needs to have his walking papers. DC should be fired at seasons end and we need to send money at Bohl and get him to Laramie.


Unless something CRAZY happens, I agree.
I'm on board.


Same here.

And I want to add this....FIRE BURMAN ASAP!!!!!!!!!!!!
I want CHAMPIONSHIPS not chicken shit! And we're getting chicken shit!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Hire Craig Bohl

Postby DocHolliday » Sat Oct 26, 2013 9:43 pm

I've already implored Mr Bohl to look in this direction on his Twitter feed: @CraigBohl
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Re: Hire Craig Bohl

Postby kansasCowboy » Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:24 am

BeaverPoke wrote:
ItSucksToBeACSURam wrote:For those of you campaigning for Bohl, what has he done that makes you think it'll end any different than Glenn?


Beat Kansas State.


He barely beat a bad Kansas St team. Trust me, not a "quality" win.
I feel for Snyder. They are way worse off than us.
Play calling: QB rush, QB rush, TE slant, punt.

But really think about it. Bohl runs a run heavy offense. Our offense, with its talent returning would be a complete waste while trying to transition.
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Re: Hire Craig Bohl

Postby djm19 » Sun Oct 27, 2013 6:58 am

We owe it Brett to not switch horses midstream. I say give DC another year with a new d coordinator.
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Re: Hire Craig Bohl

Postby NowherePoke » Sun Oct 27, 2013 7:10 am

djm19 wrote:We owe it Brett to not switch horses midstream. I say give DC another year with a new d coordinator.


Don't you think we owe it to Brett to try to win?

Changing coordinators isn't likely to work in this situation. It's exactly like Joe Glenn in 2007. The program was sliding down hill and one side of the ball was completely pathetic (it was offense at that time) so they sacrificed the coordinator (Cockhill, who should have been fired years earlier). The problem was that they couldn't get a decent coordinator to come in because Glenn was a lame duck coach and everyone knew it was likely for one year before getting fired again. That's how we ended up with Bob Cole and another crappy season.

DC is done. The only question is whether we will need to endure an awful lame duck season next year or not.
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Re: Hire Craig Bohl

Postby Wyovanian » Sun Oct 27, 2013 8:19 am

You all realize Bohl has zero experience turning a program around. He's done great things at NDSU, but he took over a winning program.
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Re: Hire Craig Bohl

Postby SDPokeFan » Sun Oct 27, 2013 9:13 am

djm19 wrote:We owe it Brett to not switch horses midstream. I say give DC another year with a new d coordinator.


I think we owe it to Brett to win games and find coaches that don't have defenses that give up 50 points and 500+ yards every time they step onto the field. Besides there are 100 other kids in this program to think about, not just Brett Smith.
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Re: Hire Craig Bohl

Postby McPeachy » Sun Oct 27, 2013 9:26 am

YankPoke wrote:Tormey should not be let onto the plane home and needs to have his walking papers. DC should be fired at seasons end and we need to send money at Bohl and get him to Laramie.


No on Bohl, yes on Tormey, yes on DC.

UW's next AD needs to make a splash hire here. No more risk taking (Tiller, Dimel, Koennig, Glenn, Christensen). Do it.
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Re: Hire Craig Bohl

Postby BeaverPoke » Sun Oct 27, 2013 11:44 am

First of all whoever talked down on beating Kansas State...really?
They BARELY beat them? Who cares? A win is a WIN! Not to mention, K-State is a BCS team and NDSU is FCS.
Saying K-State is worse off than us...really?
3-4 in the Big 12 is better than 4-4 in the MWC if you ask me.

Second of all...if we get Bohl after this season, he will have Brett Smith, and then Jason Thompson to play QB for him. Doesn't matter what system you're in, they can both play QB damn well. Pro-style or spread, whatever. Not to mention Wick and May next season.
He has offensive talent, so he just needs to worry about the O-Line which is good some games, and awful others. Good coaching can probably fix that.
Then...the defense.
Teach them to play freaking defense!
Plus, if he has been at Nebraska, and NDSU he can recruit kids to remote areas, knows how to deal with bad winters and can recruit the small town kid. The kid that wants to come to Laramie and drink a couple beers with a can of copenhagen instead of a bunch of douchey losers that just want to go to the club and chase skanks all night.
To accept mediocrity, we have to become mediocre first. I will be stoked when we become a mediocre program. That's better than what we have been.
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Re: Hire Craig Bohl

Postby YankPoke » Sun Oct 27, 2013 11:46 am

BeaverPoke wrote:First of all whoever talked down on beating Kansas State...really?
They BARELY beat them? Who cares? A win is a WIN! Not to mention, K-State is a BCS team and NDSU is FCS.
Saying K-State is worse off than us...really?
3-4 in the Big 12 is better than 4-4 in the MWC if you ask me.

Second of all...if we get Bohl after this season, he will have Brett Smith, and then Jason Thompson to play QB for him. Doesn't matter what system you're in, they can both play QB damn well. Pro-style or spread, whatever. Not to mention Wick and May next season.
He has offensive talent, so he just needs to worry about the O-Line which is good some games, and awful others. Good coaching can probably fix that.
Then...the defense.
Teach them to play freaking defense!
Plus, if he has been at Nebraska, and NDSU he can recruit kids to remote areas, knows how to deal with bad winters and can recruit the small town kid. The kid that wants to come to Laramie and drink a couple beers with a can of copenhagen instead of a bunch of douchey losers that just want to go to the club and chase skanks all night.

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Re: Hire Craig Bohl

Postby kansasCowboy » Sun Oct 27, 2013 1:09 pm

BeaverPoke wrote:First of all whoever talked down on beating Kansas State...really?
They BARELY beat them? Who cares? A win is a WIN! Not to mention, K-State is a BCS team and NDSU is FCS.
Saying K-State is worse off than us...really?
3-4 in the Big 12 is better than 4-4 in the MWC if you ask me.

Second of all...if we get Bohl after this season, he will have Brett Smith, and then Jason Thompson to play QB for him. Doesn't matter what system you're in, they can both play QB damn well. Pro-style or spread, whatever. Not to mention Wick and May next season.
He has offensive talent, so he just needs to worry about the O-Line which is good some games, and awful others. Good coaching can probably fix that.
Then...the defense.
Teach them to play freaking defense!
Plus, if he has been at Nebraska, and NDSU he can recruit kids to remote areas, knows how to deal with bad winters and can recruit the small town kid. The kid that wants to come to Laramie and drink a couple beers with a can of copenhagen instead of a bunch of douchey losers that just want to go to the club and chase skanks all night.


First off, I'm from Kansas, Beav. I may not be a fan of KSU, but it's all that is in the papers down here and all that's on tv. KSU SUCKS this year. They are a one dimensional offense which relies heavy on their QB making a running play. If you thought Glenn's offense sucked, this stuff would blow your mind. The only thing that even makes KSU competitive is D. But it is even questionable at times.
"First down. Sams is in the shotgun. The snap to Sams, he going to make his way through the line for about 3 yards.
Second and 7 now, KSU showing a pistol formation. Sams is going to take the snap and sweep to the right, he spins and picks up about a yard.
Third and 6. Sams is all alone in the shotgun. Five wide. The snap, Sams thought about the run, he's now looking to the middle of the field, he's got a receiver wide open. Sams just gets it off in time! Incomplete. He threw it at the receivers feet.
That'll bring up fourth and 6 and the Wildcats will have to punt it away."
That's a typical drive. Not hard to beat a team that struggles on offense.

Now, you say Rohl would do great with Smith and Thompson? Both of those QBs are Spread formation QBs. They will typically never throw for less than 30 times a game.
Rohls QB threw 14 times in their win yesterday. That is a waste of Smiths talent if you want him to transition next year. If we have a coaching change with a significant offensive change, bet that we lose Smith to the draft and probably Thompson to transfer. Remember, he almost transferred last year. Then where are we at with one of our toughest schedules next year?
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Re: Hire Craig Bohl

Postby YankPoke » Sun Oct 27, 2013 1:46 pm

I agree with parts of both Kansas, and you Beav. I do think that we lose both Smith and Thompson in we were to hire a guy like Bohl, but I also agree that Bohl has shown that he can recruit to isolated places and have success. For an FCS team to beat a BCS school that is nothing to scoff at, I know that KSU is not as good this season, but they can win some games still. I would have Bohl as my top candidate because he has won at NDSU, which has similar challenges to Laramie although it would cause a transition time and I don't think we would be all that competitive for a few years. We do have some individual talent on the defense, as well as some good RBs that he could utilize right away, but we would likely be looking at potentially Thornton being our best returning QB. It is difficult whenever you fire a coach and usually there is an unfortunate transition period, which is why I would not be opposed to giving DC Brett's senior season as long as Tormey is fired immediately. I do think however that Bohl should be at the top of the list of potential candidates if it is deemed that a change is necessary.
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Re: Hire Craig Bohl

Postby wyokoke » Sun Oct 27, 2013 3:30 pm

YankPoke wrote:I agree with parts of both Kansas, and you Beav. I do think that we lose both Smith and Thompson in we were to hire a guy like Bohl, but I also agree that Bohl has shown that he can recruit to isolated places and have success. For an FCS team to beat a BCS school that is nothing to scoff at, I know that KSU is not as good this season, but they can win some games still. I would have Bohl as my top candidate because he has won at NDSU, which has similar challenges to Laramie although it would cause a transition time and I don't think we would be all that competitive for a few years. We do have some individual talent on the defense, as well as some good RBs that he could utilize right away, but we would likely be looking at potentially Thornton being our best returning QB. It is difficult whenever you fire a coach and usually there is an unfortunate transition period, which is why I would not be opposed to giving DC Brett's senior season as long as Tormey is fired immediately. I do think however that Bohl should be at the top of the list of potential candidates if it is deemed that a change is necessary.

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Re: Hire Craig Bohl

Postby BeaverPoke » Sun Oct 27, 2013 3:50 pm

Spread or pro style, Brett can play. Would it really surprise anyone if we went to a pro-style offense and Brett still put up big numbers? No, or at least it shouldn't. He can play QB plain and simple.
The coach isn't an idiot. He would find a way to bring out the talents of Brett and Thompson the best way possible.

And could it really hurt to have another blocker and 1 less WR?
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Re: Hire Craig Bohl

Postby BeaverPoke » Sun Oct 27, 2013 3:52 pm

Plus, would Thompson really transfer? Why transfer after your RS-sophomore year? He would have to sit out another season.
Plus, the new coach would immediately reach out to Thompson to do anything he could to get him to stay, as he knows Thompson staying would be the biggest resource for his success.
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