Bohl #1 coach in MWC, #59 in country

[BackHarlowRoad]

Well. Sorry to hear that man. It's a culture thing, I've watched bohl and NDSU win 43 of 45 games and I don't remember how to cheer for a loser. (Oh wait, I have Vikings season tickets haha)

I'm just saying. Culture and attitude helps lot, losers lament hurts a lot, that's all. You all know I'm a wyo fan

Culture and attitude occurs BECAUSE you win 43 of 45 games. It's easy to feel like a winner when you win 96% of your games.

Nobody is saying that Bohl is going to come in and win 80-90% of his games right off the bat. That culture at NDSU didn't come right away. Bohl built it. Thats why a select few of us here think he'll do the same at UW.

Exactly my point.

You're ragging on us for not having a winning culture and attitude. It doesn't come right away. Bohl has to build it.

[joshvanklomp]

You're ragging on us for not having a winning culture and attitude. It doesn't come right away. Bohl has to build it.

No, I understand you don't have the culture. But a majority here also don't seem to have the attitude/faith/belief that Bohl is going to turn it around.

[ragtimejoe1]

This board is comedy....We have a solid new head coach who was picked by a random magazine as he best coach in the MWC. This wasn't a fans list...but a 3rd parties list. Nobody has made the claim he is the best in the mwc...but we have a slew of fans trying to prove he isn't.

Good stuff guys.

Bohl is a great hire. Personally, I think he might have been the best coach available for Wyoming out of ANY candidate that went anywhere. Certainly there were higher profile guys, but I think Bohl fits WYO better than any other candidate. This article claims he is the best in the MWC.

Despite all the sunshine being pumped in the Spring, more new coaching hires fail in the MWC than succeed. It is what it is. I think he will be successful, but his commitment to the pro-style O and Tampa 2 could be as much his downfall as Glenn's OC was to him?

Definitely a good hire, but coaching in the MWC has challenges Bohl hasn't seen before. A good MWC coach overcomes those challenges and wins. Until we see that, it is awful tough to throw a ranking out there. You are right, however, good press is always good.

[ragtimejoe1]

Where would this coach rank coming into the MWC?
Record Post Season
12-3 DII Champ
13-2 DII Champ
11-2 DII Quarterfinal
11-2 DII Quarterfinal
13-2 DI-AA Champ Game
15-1 DI-AA Champ
11-2 DI-AA Quarterfinal

Joe was a good coach...his fault was he was too loyal to his offensive coordinator. Nobody will dispute that he had some of the best Wyoming defenses in recent memory.

I agree for the most part. D's were good as long as we didn't see lots of speed. Really good teams still lit us up but certainly solid defenses for the MWC.

Agreed that Glenn was a pretty good coach; I was just curious where people would rank him in today's MWC.

[TSpoke]

You're ragging on us for not having a winning culture and attitude. It doesn't come right away. Bohl has to build it.

No, I understand you don't have the culture. But a majority here also don't seem to have the attitude/faith/belief that Bohl is going to turn it around.

No, some of us just don't worship the ground Bohl walks on, yet. He hasn't coached one game for us. I've bought in 100% on the past few hires only to watch them crumble so this one I am taking a more watch and see approach. I like what I see and think Bohl is a very good coach and will probably be successful here. However, I do have some issues/questions to wait and see about. Namely the tampa2, power offense, and to a lesser extent recruiting strategy. Some of these NDSU fans think if we don't treat Bohl like a god among men we are disrepecting him or don't beleive in him or the program. I think he is a good coach but I'm not going to annoint him before he ever coaches a game.

[J-Rod]

No, some of us just don't worship the ground Bohl walks on, yet. He hasn't coached one game for us. I've bought in 100% on the past few hires only to watch them crumble so this one I am taking a more watch and see approach. I like what I see and think Bohl is a very good coach and will probably be successful here. However, I do have some issues/questions to wait and see about. Namely the tampa2, power offense, and to a lesser extent recruiting strategy. Some of these NDSU fans think if we don't treat Bohl like a god among men we are disrepecting him or don't beleive in him or the program. I think he is a good coach but I'm not going to annoint him before he ever coaches a game.

Good post....well said.

Its the honeymoon period though....all is well until the games are being played. I still think this team is a mystery going into the Griz game. After that game, we'll have a better grasp on how 2014 will go.

[hithere]

No, some of us just don't worship the ground Bohl walks on, yet. He hasn't coached one game for us. I've bought in 100% on the past few hires only to watch them crumble so this one I am taking a more watch and see approach. I like what I see and think Bohl is a very good coach and will probably be successful here. However, I do have some issues/questions to wait and see about. Namely the tampa2, power offense, and to a lesser extent recruiting strategy. Some of these NDSU fans think if we don't treat Bohl like a god among men we are disrepecting him or don't beleive in him or the program. I think he is a good coach but I'm not going to annoint him before he ever coaches a game.

Exactly. There is a lot to be hopeful for with Craig Bohl, but he has also never coached one game at UW. In five years time, I hope to be as ridiculously obnoxious in my fandom of Craig Bohl as most NDSU fans appear to be.

And who hires Steve Stanard as a DC? Ugh.

[joshvanklomp]

No, some of us just don't worship the ground Bohl walks on, yet. He hasn't coached one game for us. I've bought in 100% on the past few hires only to watch them crumble so this one I am taking a more watch and see approach. I like what I see and think Bohl is a very good coach and will probably be successful here. However, I do have some issues/questions to wait and see about. Namely the tampa2, power offense, and to a lesser extent recruiting strategy. Some of these NDSU fans think if we don't treat Bohl like a god among men we are disrepecting him or don't beleive in him or the program. I think he is a good coach but I'm not going to annoint him before he ever coaches a game.

Thats fair. It just seems like I see more posts of "FCS coach getting FCS recruits blah" than "I'm optimistic, but not going overboard yet" Thats where these "NDSU fans" question some of what they read here.

Trust me, I'm from Minnesota. We have our fair share of cynics and skeptics. So when we see a coach as good as Bohl, we jump on board fast.

[WestWYOPoke]

Hell, this is about as optimistic as WyoNation gets. If you think this is bad, come back mid-season after a few losses (which even BeaverPoke will admit, we are sure to have). Even if the losses are expected and we perform better than most think we should, there will still be a few on here talking about how Bohl isn't the answer. Bottom-line: if you don't like seeing "nonbelievers" in Bohl, you best steer clear once the season gets rolling, because my money is on the banter here getting worse before it gets better.

[Cowboy Junky]

No, some of us just don't worship the ground Bohl walks on, yet. He hasn't coached one game for us. I've bought in 100% on the past few hires only to watch them crumble so this one I am taking a more watch and see approach. I like what I see and think Bohl is a very good coach and will probably be successful here. However, I do have some issues/questions to wait and see about. Namely the tampa2, power offense, and to a lesser extent recruiting strategy. Some of these NDSU fans think if we don't treat Bohl like a god among men we are disrepecting him or don't beleive in him or the program. I think he is a good coach but I'm not going to annoint him before he ever coaches a game.

Exactly. There is a lot to be hopeful for with Craig Bohl, but he has also never coached one game at UW. In five years time, I hope to be as ridiculously obnoxious in my fandom of Craig Bohl as most NDSU fans appear to be.

And who hires Steve Stanard as a DC? Ugh.

The most successful coach in CSU history hired Stanard as DC.

[J-Rod]

The most successful coach in CSU history hired Stanard as DC.

Quick glance at Stanard's time at CSU....2006 wasn't awful. Every other year though his defenses gave up more than 30 PPG on a weekly basis. Sonny's teams in his last years there were pretty bad though....and that's when the MW was a gauntlet of a league, unlike now.

[Wyokie]

No, some of us just don't worship the ground Bohl walks on, yet. He hasn't coached one game for us. I've bought in 100% on the past few hires only to watch them crumble so this one I am taking a more watch and see approach. I like what I see and think Bohl is a very good coach and will probably be successful here. However, I do have some issues/questions to wait and see about. Namely the tampa2, power offense, and to a lesser extent recruiting strategy. Some of these NDSU fans think if we don't treat Bohl like a god among men we are disrepecting him or don't beleive in him or the program. I think he is a good coach but I'm not going to annoint him before he ever coaches a game.

Exactly. There is a lot to be hopeful for with Craig Bohl, but he has also never coached one game at UW. In five years time, I hope to be as ridiculously obnoxious in my fandom of Craig Bohl as most NDSU fans appear to be.

And who hires Steve Stanard as a DC? Ugh.

The most successful coach in CSU history hired Stanard as DC.

Sonny Lubick hired him?

[hithere]

The most successful coach in CSU history hired Stanard as DC.

Exactly, as did Tony Samuels at NMSU from 2000-2002 and and Bob Toledo at Tulane from 2009-2011. Because of their decision to do so, Stanard defenses were ranked as some of the worst in the country. Not coincidentally, CSU fell off the map as a successful football program from 2003 on. I would argue that Stanard is worse than Cockhill ever was but somehow magically keeps getting jobs.

Most cases, as a fan, I'd be willing to cut some slack to new hires. But Stanard is a proven dud. I had this nice hate-table formatted for all of Stanard's defenses at Tulane, NMSU and CSU but am too dumb to use BBCode on this forum; at any rate, check out rushing and scoring defenses from 2000-2002 at NMSU. 2003-2007 at CSU and Tulane from 2009-2011. They get progressively worse through the years at each program.

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2001
2002
2003
2004
2005
2006
2007
2008
2009
2010
2011

And if you're so inclined, overall defense rankings. The guy sucks as a DC.

[J-Rod]

Damn, nice research.

[JimmyDimes]

Everyone is entitled to their opinion....as negative as those may be. But, if Wyoming starts kicking ass this year I hope non of you negative Nancy's enjoy the ride. I hate bandwagon fans.

Go Pokes!!

[Cowboy Junky]

He was pretty salty his first few years at CSU. I blame CSU's downfall on the loss of key guys in their team. A bunch of their coaches left to take other jobs. That, in addition to the rise of Utah and the addition of TCU spelled trouble for CSU.

Stanard kicked ass at NDSU the last couple of seasons. I notice you failed to link those numbers.

Who can blame a guy for being miserable at Tulane and NMSU? I don't think anyone has been successful at either of those programs in 50 years, so you have to be remarkable to succeed there.

I'm not saying he's a world beater. I'm just saying let the guy have a chance in Laramie before we run him up the flag pole. He's had success and he's had failure. Let's wait and see what he does here before we decide he isn't good.

[hithere]

He was pretty salty his first few years at CSU. I blame CSU's downfall on the loss of key guys in their team. A bunch of their coaches left to take other jobs. That, in addition to the rise of Utah and the addition of TCU spelled trouble for CSU.

Stanard kicked ass at NDSU the last couple of seasons. I notice you failed to link those numbers.

Who can blame a guy for being miserable at Tulane and NMSU? I don't think anyone has been successful at either of those programs in 50 years, so you have to be remarkable to succeed there.

I'm not saying he's a world beater. I'm just saying let the guy have a chance in Laramie before we run him up the flag pole. He's had success and he's had failure. Let's wait and see what he does here before we decide he isn't good.

He was never the DC at NDSU. And yes, hopefully he'll be good. But statistically, it doesn't look good to me.

[J-Rod]

He was never the DC at NDSU. And yes, hopefully he'll be good. But statistically, it doesn't look good to me.

Huh....its been that kind of day. I thought he the DC, but nope....you're correct. LB coach from 2012-2013....his group was really good though. All of this is speculation though....nothing is a sure thing when it comes to the 2014 Cowboys....positive or negative.

[WYCowboy]

No, some of us just don't worship the ground Bohl walks on, yet. He hasn't coached one game for us. I've bought in 100% on the past few hires only to watch them crumble so this one I am taking a more watch and see approach. I like what I see and think Bohl is a very good coach and will probably be successful here. However, I do have some issues/questions to wait and see about. Namely the tampa2, power offense, and to a lesser extent recruiting strategy. Some of these NDSU fans think if we don't treat Bohl like a god among men we are disrepecting him or don't beleive in him or the program. I think he is a good coach but I'm not going to annoint him before he ever coaches a game.

Good post....well said.

Its the honeymoon period though....all is well until the games are being played. I still think this team is a mystery going into the Griz game. After that game, we'll have a better grasp on how 2014 will go.

I'm not sure 2014 will be a good indicator on how Coach Bohl will do at Wyoming. More important than the W/L record will be the adjustments and changes he is willing to make to correct any weaknesses. In other words, fix the problem areas.

[J-Rod]

I'm not sure 2014 will be a good indicator on how Coach Bohl will do at Wyoming. More important than the W/L record will be the adjustments and changes he is willing to make to correct any weaknesses. In other words, fix the problem areas.

Very true. We also haven't gotten the chance to see him really recruit yet. He got a raw deal by having to start in January. I highly doubt the next class will be filled with kids who only have FCS offers again.