Coach Bohl, it's cool you use this message board, but you can do better than Wiley Wapiti as a user name! [/quote]
SDpoke, this is the exact response I would expect out of you, and Beaver. Always the loudest and first to bitch, but never have any idea what you are talking about. Please share your expert ideas on how to fix our football program. Im all ears....
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Personally, I agree 110% with LanderPoke. This class has some pretty good top end guys that aren't getting the respect they deserve. I saw where Chandler Garrett had Memphis and Rutgers wanting him, Dustin Weeks had Wisconsin wanting him, and Jace Webb had Oklahoma State after him and those are the only ones that got mentioned. I would almost bet on it that the talent in this class is deeper than a lot of you expect and that you are just looking for something to whine about. I remember two signing days ago I was going through high school recruits hudl films and thought "Brian Hill is going to be a stud" before he played a day as a Cowboy. The other thing that stood out is Bohl made the comment about how redshirting guys avoids their least productive year as a freshman and gives them their most as a 5th year senior. So a lot of you should stop checking recruiting rankings, go watch the film yourself, and relax. And if that is too much work, take your whining somewhere else.[/quote]
AMEN!!!!
AMEN!!!!
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wiley wapiti wrote:Personally, I agree 110% with LanderPoke. This class has some pretty good top end guys that aren't getting the respect they deserve. I saw where Chandler Garrett had Memphis and Rutgers wanting him, Dustin Weeks had Wisconsin wanting him, and Jace Webb had Oklahoma State after him and those are the only ones that got mentioned. I would almost bet on it that the talent in this class is deeper than a lot of you expect and that you are just looking for something to whine about. I remember two signing days ago I was going through high school recruits hudl films and thought "Brian Hill is going to be a stud" before he played a day as a Cowboy. The other thing that stood out is Bohl made the comment about how redshirting guys avoids their least productive year as a freshman and gives them their most as a 5th year senior. So a lot of you should stop checking recruiting rankings, go watch the film yourself, and relax. And if that is too much work, take your whining somewhere else.
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I think that was NebraskaCowboy that made this statement, and I agree with it.
You can tell how big a person is by what it takes to discourage him/her.
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A little basic math for the conversation.
Typical travel team = 64 to 72 guys depending on conference rules and such.
Typical recruiting class 20-25.
That means 3 recruiting classes just to fill the traveling squad roster with guys for the new system.
Success (7-8+ wins) in year 4 is a reasonable goal (you have 80-100 guys to choose 64-72 from; still are using some young guys). That is why it takes a good 5+ years for conference championships. It really takes that long to fill a roster and especially a traveling roster with guys for the system.
Typical travel team = 64 to 72 guys depending on conference rules and such.
Typical recruiting class 20-25.
That means 3 recruiting classes just to fill the traveling squad roster with guys for the new system.
Success (7-8+ wins) in year 4 is a reasonable goal (you have 80-100 guys to choose 64-72 from; still are using some young guys). That is why it takes a good 5+ years for conference championships. It really takes that long to fill a roster and especially a traveling roster with guys for the system.
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If you remember, coach B said that Nebraska had been successful because they developed a solid walk on program. Found many great players that way.
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http://www.gowyo.com/signingday/#press" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;laxwyo wrote:Is there a place to watch the signing day presser? I've looked around and haven't found anything
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wiley wapiti wrote:Coach Bohl, it's cool you use this message board, but you can do better than Wiley Wapiti as a user name!
SDpoke, this is the exact response I would expect out of you, and Beaver. Always the loudest and first to bitch, but never have any idea what you are talking about. Please share your expert ideas on how to fix our football program. Im all ears.... [/quote]
The solution is three letters; FCS.
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The solution is three letters; FCS.[/quote]SDPokeFan wrote:wiley wapiti wrote:Coach Bohl, it's cool you use this message board, but you can do better than Wiley Wapiti as a user name!
SDpoke, this is the exact response I would expect out of you, and Beaver. Always the loudest and first to bitch, but never have any idea what you are talking about. Please share your expert ideas on how to fix our football program. Im all ears....
Stop. Your retard FCS schtick is old. It's been debunked so many times.
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The solution is three letters; FCS.[/quote]SDPokeFan wrote:wiley wapiti wrote:Coach Bohl, it's cool you use this message board, but you can do better than Wiley Wapiti as a user name!
SDpoke, this is the exact response I would expect out of you, and Beaver. Always the loudest and first to bitch, but never have any idea what you are talking about. Please share your expert ideas on how to fix our football program. Im all ears....
Solution for you....go live on the Jackrabbit forums if you want to be FCS so bad. They would love to have your backwards thinking.
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9 of 44 (20%) of those starters in SB50 were from G5 or < schools. The rest, 35, were from P5 schools. I found that more telling than ranking recruits with stars, bells, stickers, and such.NebraskaCowboy wrote:Well then what do you say about the likes of Carson Wentz? The dude had 0 stars, went to North Dakota State, and is going to be a top 5 pick in the draft? The thing is, there is more talent out there now than ever and not every big school is going to find them, leaving this way to rank recruits as flawed. There is a reason they play the game instead of doing it as a ranking of stars. I mean if you need more evidence, go look at this. http://www.sbnation.com/college-footbal ... ng-ratings
The true ranking of a recruiting class, IMO, is only clear after 2 to 3 years in the program (RS Sophmore or Junior status).
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This!McPeachy wrote:9 of 44 (20%) of those starters in SB50 were from G5 or < schools. The rest, 35, were from P5 schools. I found that more telling than ranking recruits with stars, bells, stickers, and such.NebraskaCowboy wrote:Well then what do you say about the likes of Carson Wentz? The dude had 0 stars, went to North Dakota State, and is going to be a top 5 pick in the draft? The thing is, there is more talent out there now than ever and not every big school is going to find them, leaving this way to rank recruits as flawed. There is a reason they play the game instead of doing it as a ranking of stars. I mean if you need more evidence, go look at this. http://www.sbnation.com/college-footbal ... ng-ratings
The true ranking of a recruiting class, IMO, is only clear after 2 to 3 years in the program (RS Sophmore or Junior status).
You can tell how big a person is by what it takes to discourage him/her.
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Disclaimer: I'm good with Bohl and his classes. More than willing and excited to see this through 4 years. Just as the proof is in the pudding in recruiting classes in 2-3 years, a coaching staff can be clearly evaluated by year 4.
With that said and if I had time, it would be interesting to go back and look at some of the G5 builds. I listed a ton that were successful by year 4 where the programs were floundering before.
I wonder how recruiting rankings averaged, say 3 years before the new coach, and then how they averaged for the first 4 years of the new staff...maybe if I get some time.
With that said and if I had time, it would be interesting to go back and look at some of the G5 builds. I listed a ton that were successful by year 4 where the programs were floundering before.
I wonder how recruiting rankings averaged, say 3 years before the new coach, and then how they averaged for the first 4 years of the new staff...maybe if I get some time.
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I'm willing to give Bohl another couple of years if we see some improvement in the W column this fall.