2 Scholly's left...

Fri Feb 05, 2016 8:49 am

I remember Ol Bohly stating he would sign 25 "a full class" on several occasions in the past few months. The deflections certainly effected that - but what do you all think? D-Line / D-End JC or 5th year xfers?

Fri Feb 05, 2016 9:01 am

I'm putting all my money on DE. He offered something like 29 of them this season, and wasn't able to land any. There will definitely be a JUCO in there I'm guessing.

Fri Feb 05, 2016 9:06 am

WYO1016 wrote:I'm putting all my money on DE. He offered something like 29 of them this season, and wasn't able to land any. There will definitely be a JUCO in there I'm guessing.

Wow, I didn't know they offered that many.

Fri Feb 05, 2016 9:23 am

WYCowboy wrote:
WYO1016 wrote:I'm putting all my money on DE. He offered something like 29 of them this season, and wasn't able to land any. There will definitely be a JUCO in there I'm guessing.
Wow, I didn't know they offered that many.

That kind of makes me sick. 0 for 29. Jesus.

Fri Feb 05, 2016 9:27 am

McPeachy wrote:
WYCowboy wrote:
WYO1016 wrote:I'm putting all my money on DE. He offered something like 29 of them this season, and wasn't able to land any. There will definitely be a JUCO in there I'm guessing.
Wow, I didn't know they offered that many.
That kind of makes me sick. 0 for 29. Jesus.

No kidding.

Stanard effect, defensive scheme effect, bad luck, or what does everyone think the deal is?

Fri Feb 05, 2016 9:41 am

ragtimejoe1 wrote:
McPeachy wrote:
WYCowboy wrote:
WYO1016 wrote:I'm putting all my money on DE. He offered something like 29 of them this season, and wasn't able to land any. There will definitely be a JUCO in there I'm guessing.
Wow, I didn't know they offered that many.
That kind of makes me sick. 0 for 29. Jesus.
No kidding.

Stanard effect, offensive scheme effect, bad luck, or what does everyone think the deal is?

The vast majority went P5. So the vast majority we didn't have a shot at. There were a couple I was excited about that ended up going FCS or MAC which was a head scratcher.

Plus we had Englehaupt lined up, but the kids screwed us over and we're scrambling.

Fri Feb 05, 2016 10:09 am

LanderPoke wrote: The vast majority went P5. So the vast majority we didn't have a shot at. There were a couple I was excited about that ended up going FCS or MAC which was a head scratcher.

Plus we had Englehaupt lined up, but the kids screwed us over and we're scrambling.

Honestly, I'd rather take a shot at 29 kids with P5 offers or end up going to P5 than kids with no other offers.

I like Bohl's recruiting philosophy and approach. I think long-term, it will get better.

Fri Feb 05, 2016 10:37 am

Here's a list of the defensive ends we offered that went elsewhere:
Sione Aliki — 6-3/250 (DE, UC-Davis)
Lyric Bartley — 6-4/240 (DE, Washington State)
Danny Bender — 6-4/220 (DE, San Diego State)
Jake Burton — 6-6/230 (DE, Arizona)
T.J. Carter — 6-4/230 (DE, Kentucky)
Desmond Chapple — 6-4/235 (DE, Northern Iowa)
Max Christensen — 6-3/225 (DE, Nevada)
Tristan Crowder — 6-3/215 (DE, Missouri State)
Koron Crump — 6-4/220 (DE, Arizona State)
David Engelhaupt — 6-4/230 (DE, Nebraska)
Will Evans - 6-3/255 (DE, Ohio)
Noah Fant — 6-5/210 (DE, Iowa)
Chase Hatada — 6-3/255 (DE, Boise State)
James Jennett — 6-4/225 (DE, Ball State)
Hayden Johnson — 6-3/255 (DE, Arkansas)
Ben Kimpler — 6-6/217 (DE, Miami of Ohio)
Isaiahh Loudermilk — 6-6/250 (DE, Wisconsin)
Pookie Maka — 6-4/195 (DE, Colorado)
Donald Manning — 6-3/235 (DE, Ball State)
Darius McFarland — 6-2/250 (DE, BYU)
Romeo McKnight — 6-5/235 (DE, Iowa)
Toby McBride — 6-3/235 (DE, Colorado State)
Josh Mueller — 6-6/260 (DE, Iowa State)
Troy Murray — 6-5/210 (DE, Utah State)
Jerrion Nelson — 6-2/245 (DE, Iowa State)
David Potts — 6-3/235 (DE, Idaho)
Matt Prendergast — 6-5/245 (DE, Lehigh)
Kayode Rufai — 6-4/230 (DE, Boise State)
Derriyon Shaw — 6-2/225 (DE, Boise State)
Ben Stille — 6-6/265 (DE, Nebraska)
Curtis Weaver — 6-4/265 (DE, Boise State)
Evan Weaver — 6-3/230 (DE, California)

Fri Feb 05, 2016 10:42 am

Damn... the better question about that list is how many DE's are going to Boise State?

Fri Feb 05, 2016 10:45 am

One of the hardest positions in football to recruit

Fri Feb 05, 2016 10:52 am

Looks like we offered 32 defensive ends and got ZERO

Schools we lost them to:

Arizona - 1
Arizona State - 1
Arkansas - 1
Ball State - 2
Boise State - 4
BYU - 1
California - 1
Colorado - 1
Colorado State - 1
Idaho - 1
Iowa - 2
Iowa State - 2
Kentucky - 1
Lehigh - 1
Miami (OH) - 1
Missouri State - 1
Nebraska - 2
Nevada - 1
Northern Iowa - 1
Ohio - 1
San Diego State - 1
UC-Davis - 1
Utah State - 1
Washington State - 1
Wisconsin - 1

Broken down by conference:

Big XII - 4
B1G - 3
FCS - 4
MAC - 4
MW - 8
PAC 12 - 5
SEC - 2
Sun Belt - 1

Fri Feb 05, 2016 10:53 am

Whoa, we couldn't beat out 1 of Davis, Lehigh, Missouri State, Ohio, Miami of Ohio, Ball State, or Idaho

Damn, that is bad.

Fri Feb 05, 2016 10:54 am

cali2wyo wrote:Damn... the better question about that list is how many DE's are going to Boise State?

I'm guessing that's the Mountain West school that Bohl said watched our recruiting. I've got a feeling we'll see a couple of those kids transfer out of Boise at some point. No way you can have enough snaps to sign 4 defensive ends in one class.

Fri Feb 05, 2016 10:55 am

Really concerning to see that we lost 4 recruits to FCS schools and 1 to Idaho (who may as well be FCS)

I don't know if it's our scheme or our recruiting pitch, but whoever is handling the recruiting of defensive ends needs to be replaced.

Fri Feb 05, 2016 11:29 am

WYO1016 wrote:Really concerning to see that we lost 4 recruits to FCS schools and 1 to Idaho (who may as well be FCS)

I don't know if it's our scheme or our recruiting pitch, but whoever is handling the recruiting of defensive ends needs to be replaced.

Or maybe some of these guys we lost out to don't want to venture away from home.. there's lots that factor into recruiting..

Fri Feb 05, 2016 12:13 pm

WYO1016 wrote:
cali2wyo wrote:Damn... the better question about that list is how many DE's are going to Boise State?
I'm guessing that's the Mountain West school that Bohl said watched our recruiting. I've got a feeling we'll see a couple of those kids transfer out of Boise at some point. No way you can have enough snaps to sign 4 defensive ends in one class.

You're saying Boise State, who has had the best recruiting class every year since joining the conference, had to closely follow ol' Bohl around? I agree that they most likely won't hold on to every one of them, but come on man...

Fri Feb 05, 2016 12:56 pm

cali2wyo wrote:You're saying Boise State, who has had the best recruiting class every year since joining the conference, had to closely follow ol' Bohl around? I agree that they most likely won't hold on to every one of them, but come on man...

MW schools we lost recruits to:

Air Force - 3
Boise State - 8
Colorado State - 4
Fresno State - 1
Hawaii - 1
Nevada - 2
New Mexico - 2
San Diego State - 8
San Jose State - 2
UNLV - 4
Utah State - 4

I don't think I'm crazy for thinking that either Boise or SDSU is following our offers.

Fri Feb 05, 2016 1:09 pm

WYO1016 wrote:
cali2wyo wrote:You're saying Boise State, who has had the best recruiting class every year since joining the conference, had to closely follow ol' Bohl around? I agree that they most likely won't hold on to every one of them, but come on man...
MW schools we lost recruits to:

Air Force - 3
Boise State - 8
Colorado State - 4
Fresno State - 1
Hawaii - 1
Nevada - 2
New Mexico - 2
San Diego State - 8
San Jose State - 2
UNLV - 4
Utah State - 4

I don't think I'm crazy for thinking that either Boise or SDSU is following our offers.

Were the recruits who went to these schools offered by us first? Sorry, but I don't believe Boise or San Diego State are in positions to be desperate enough to follow around and snatch up Wyoming recruits. They've been the top performers in recruiting the past few years, even before Bohl got here. It's much more likely Bohl is taking some time adjusting to evaluate FBS talent (he's been quoted numerous times saying he underestimated the speed and size of the MWC) and is following around SDSU and Boise.

Fri Feb 05, 2016 1:11 pm

WYO1016 wrote:
cali2wyo wrote:You're saying Boise State, who has had the best recruiting class every year since joining the conference, had to closely follow ol' Bohl around? I agree that they most likely won't hold on to every one of them, but come on man...
MW schools we lost recruits to:

Air Force - 3
Boise State - 8
Colorado State - 4
Fresno State - 1
Hawaii - 1
Nevada - 2
New Mexico - 2
San Diego State - 8
San Jose State - 2
UNLV - 4
Utah State - 4

I don't think I'm crazy for thinking that either Boise or SDSU is following our offers.

I don't see a conspiracy here. I think it says more about Bohl recognizing and going after better talent.

Fri Feb 05, 2016 1:22 pm

Agree to disagree.

Moving on, according to our latest roster these are the defensive linemen that we currently have available (not counting recruits):

DE:
Carl Granderson - So - 6'6" - 200
Trevor Meader - So - 6'4" - 222
Adam Kinder - Sr - 6'2" - 246
Kevin Prosser - So - 6'2" - 197
Brent Gilliand - Fr - 6'2" - 262 (listed as lineman, not DE or DT)

DT:
Connor Cain - So - 6'4" - 250
Youhanna Ghaifan - Fr - 6'4" - 255

NT:
Chase Appleby - Sr - 6' - 255
Dalton Fields - Jr - 6'2" - 274
Du'Ryan Ebbesen - Jr - 6'2" - 305
Sidney Malauulu - So - 6'3" - 300
Jacob English - Sr - 6'5" - 291

*class years are a guess based on if I remember them playing last season or not