SDSU has lost my respct

[Asmodeanreborn]

That said, I still think it should have been a penalty. If you run into the ball carrier 3 yards out of bounds inadvertently while trying to hold up, it's still a penalty. Celebrating and landing on our QB is a late hit.


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That's where I stand too. I'd rather be taunted than injured because of reckless celebration, and taunting carries a penalty.

[knhendon]

It sure looks like a nut shot to me.

Watched it several times. Several tweets and vines going around the net with the video.

Should have been a 15yd penalty and ejection. It was BS.

[Fullback41]

Open hand to the thigh. But he also came down on Josh's ankle. Either way I think it should have been a penalty. For either the ankle stomp (which happened first) or the open hand hit to the player below (even if it was just to break fall). Don't jump over the other teams players if you can't stay off them!

I think its obviously open hand to the thigh in the slow mo version, they replayed right after. live speed does look like a nut shot.

How about the ankle stomp? How about taunting by jumping up over a player on the ground? Dude is a poop, should have been flagged. Ref is a dumbass for letting it go.

[JimmyDimes]

If that's true why did Josh react the way he did? I think it was a chance at a cheap shot.

Well I'm sure the pressure of a 265 lb man with cleats on coming down on your ankle doesn't feel the greatest.

Rewatch and ask yourself, why did #95 need to pull his arm back like a person would when throwing a punch. If he was trying to maintain his balance, he wouldn't have needed to pull his arm back like he did. It was deliberate if you ask me....but missed its mark.

[cowboyz]

If that's true why did Josh react the way he did? I think it was a chance at a cheap shot.

Well I'm sure the pressure of a 265 lb man with cleats on coming down on your ankle doesn't feel the greatest.

Rewatch and ask yourself, why did #95 need to pull his arm back like a person would when throwing a punch. If he was trying to maintain his balance, he wouldn't have needed to pull his arm back like he did. It was deliberate if you ask me....but missed its mark.

I'm leaning with you, for the reason you state. It looks like he cocked his arm. And even if it wasn't his intention when he came over to celebrate, he definately used the split second opportunity to get the cheap shot. This was a foul for sure, whether it was on purpose or not, and the ref was right there. Could you imagine if the games had to be called using intent? As a ref you call what happened, not what you think the player may have been thinking when the infraction occured. The ref should absolutely be suspended, or whatever it is they do with refs that suck this bad. And if I was #95 Noble Hall, I'd be looking over my shoulder the next couple of years when I faced the Pokes.

[calpoke25]

I think it's actually pretty obvious he was jumping on his teammates back to celebrate the play, his teammate moved in the meantime and he was falling and bracing himself. His teammate is trying to catch him you can see. That being said I still think it warranted a penalty but this talk of criminal battery is absurd.

[calpoke25]

Bird fingers flying like crazy from many of the players to the fans after the game. I agree, SDSU were very classless.

They should be above such actions, but really? They've spent 8 quarters the past 3 weeks hearing our students chant "Pumphreys a bitch!" He may very well be a bitch but I don't think you can do that and not expect something back from someone. I was by their tunnel as they entered/exited the field. I think we Wyoming fans pride ourselves on being a tough crowd but that's a two way street. I'm not going to pretend we would just smile and accept the trophy if the roles were reversed. When Van Mannen went down on their sideline their guys all took a knee around him and they all shook his hand on the way back to our bench.

[Wyovanian]

I think it's actually pretty obvious he was jumping on his teammates back to celebrate the play, his teammate moved in the meantime and he was falling and bracing himself. His teammate is trying to catch him you can see. That being said I still think it warranted a penalty but this talk of criminal battery is absurd.

The player, #95, clearly cocked his arm back and made a fist. I'd say that is pretty clear intent followed by a deliberate blow.

[calpoke25]

I think it's actually pretty obvious he was jumping on his teammates back to celebrate the play, his teammate moved in the meantime and he was falling and bracing himself. His teammate is trying to catch him you can see. That being said I still think it warranted a penalty but this talk of criminal battery is absurd.

The player, #95, clearly cocked his arm back and made a fist. I'd say that is pretty clear intent followed by a deliberate blow.

Some see a nut punch (even though he doesn't hit him in the nuts) and others see what I described. Good luck with your case.....

[McPeachy]

I think it's actually pretty obvious he was jumping on his teammates back to celebrate the play, his teammate moved in the meantime and he was falling and bracing himself. His teammate is trying to catch him you can see. That being said I still think it warranted a penalty but this talk of criminal battery is absurd.

Huh?! The facts are on film. The scumbag thug MF'er made a "fist" - and that is all the proof needed, for any kind of litigation (should the MWC office / UW chose to pursue)...any kind of conference punishment, any kind of suspension, anything. Whatever happens, there should be some repercussions, and the not just the thug MF'er, but the ref as well.

[Wyovanian]

I think it's actually pretty obvious he was jumping on his teammates back to celebrate the play, his teammate moved in the meantime and he was falling and bracing himself. His teammate is trying to catch him you can see. That being said I still think it warranted a penalty but this talk of criminal battery is absurd.

The player, #95, clearly cocked his arm back and made a fist. I'd say that is pretty clear intent followed by a deliberate blow.

Some see a nut punch (even though he doesn't hit him in the nuts) and others see what I described. Good luck with your case.....

He may have missed his mark, but the footage clearly shows his intent and the delivery of the blow.

[LanderPoke]

It was definitely a closed fist.

[Charpy]

I was watching the original broadcast and didn't see anything dirty. The following day, I saw this video on the Facebook feed and wondered how I could possibly have missed that. I found out it was because somebody took the time to edit the video. Click bait. I went back and watched the replay from the ESPN3 app. At 1 hr and 48 minutes into it, you can see the play. The guy jumped up, lost his balance, landed on Josh's ankle and caught himself with an open hand on Josh's thigh. It was certainly unnecessary and probably deserved a flag but editing the video to make it look dirty is much worse IMO.

[Asmodeanreborn]

I was watching the original broadcast and didn't see anything dirty. The following day, I saw this video on the Facebook feed and wondered how I could possibly have missed that. I found out it was because somebody took the time to edit the video. Click bait. I went back and watched the replay from the ESPN3 app. At 1 hr and 48 minutes into it, you can see the play. The guy jumped up, lost his balance, landed on Josh's ankle and caught himself with an open hand on Josh's thigh. It was certainly unnecessary and probably deserved a flag but editing the video to make it look dirty is much worse IMO.

Seriously?

Do you have links to both? That sounds rather pathetic.

[WyoBrandX]

I think it's actually pretty obvious he was jumping on his teammates back to celebrate the play, his teammate moved in the meantime and he was falling and bracing himself. His teammate is trying to catch him you can see. That being said I still think it warranted a penalty but this talk of criminal battery is absurd.

I agree.

Criminal battery is absurd in a football game unless a player starts beating up a ref or a fan.

I saw it from the stadium and thought it was a cheap shot as well. After rewatching it, I have no idea. Something should have probably been called.

It was a close game. We could have won that game on any number of merits. Officiating wasn't one of them.

[whyoh]

i really don't think he was "catching himself"


he also didn't make a fist......but you can clearly see him land on his foot and then dna rifle his arm back and give josh a shot to the thigh with the heel of his hand.....and as soon as the ref looks at him his hands go up like "i didn't do anything...don't look at me "

i don't give a poop what it looked like in slow motion, the ref was standing there watching it in real time and should have thrown a flag

and nobody stepped on josh's ankle....you can clearly see the player that gives the piggy back ride standin gabout a fioot to the south of josh's feet.....and 95 lands behind him

in basketball this would have been a flagrant 2 all day long

[whyoh]

I think it's actually pretty obvious he was jumping on his teammates back to celebrate the play, his teammate moved in the meantime and he was falling and bracing himself. His teammate is trying to catch him you can see. That being said I still think it warranted a penalty but this talk of criminal battery is absurd.

I agree.

Criminal battery is absurd in a football game unless a player starts beating up a ref or a fan.

I saw it from the stadium and thought it was a cheap shot as well. After rewatching it, I have no idea. Something should have probably been called.

It was a close game. We could have won that game on any number of merits. Officiating wasn't one of them.

i dunno....if you assault someone whyat about standing on a football field makes it okay?

criminal battery? no.....but i think it would be hilarious if josh pressed assault charges

[calpoke25]

It should have been flagged for excessive celebration like that. I don't see a closed fist, you can interpret it as him cocking his arm back if you want to. Get a couple of D lineman trying to jump on each other's backs in the heat of the moment when the other one isn't looking and I'm sure you could come up with a thousand random little motions that may or may not look like something ergregiois. To me the most egregious thing on that clip is the official standing there and then doing nothing. Should have flagged it for celebrating so close to and making contact with a defenseless player on the ground but it's just so random, it's not a pre-meditated thing.

The player is excited and jumping on his teammates back to celebrate the play, his teammate isn't expecting someone to be jumping on him since he buckles under it. From the time the guy starts buckling and it's apparent the jumper is going to make contact with Allen he has who knows how many mili-seconds to decide "hey I'm gonna try to punch him while I'm at it." Unless you're assuming his goal was to hit Allen all along? Come on guys.

[whyoh]

It should have been flagged for excessive celebration like that. I don't see a closed fist, you can interpret it as him cocking his arm back if you want to. Get a couple of D lineman trying to jump on each other's backs in the heat of the moment when the other one isn't looking and I'm sure you could come up with a thousand random little motions that may or may not look like something ergregiois. To me the most egregious thing on that clip is the official standing there and then doing nothing. Should have flagged it for celebrating so close to and making contact with a defenseless player on the ground but it's just so random, it's not a pre-meditated thing.

The player is excited and jumping on his teammates back to celebrate the play, his teammate isn't expecting someone to be jumping on him since he buckles under it. From the time the guy starts buckling and it's apparent the jumper is going to make contact with Allen he has who knows how many mili-seconds to decide "hey I'm gonna try to punch him while I'm at it." Unless you're assuming his goal was to hit Allen all along? Come on guys.

i said he didn't make a fist


but he does land on his foot and looks plenty stable before hitting josh.....if he was catching himself, we wouldn't have stood right back up like that


and yeah....i do think he ran over to celebrate and saw josh and decide to give him a shot


dude looks super guilty when the ref looks up at him

[calpoke25]

It should have been flagged for excessive celebration like that. I don't see a closed fist, you can interpret it as him cocking his arm back if you want to. Get a couple of D lineman trying to jump on each other's backs in the heat of the moment when the other one isn't looking and I'm sure you could come up with a thousand random little motions that may or may not look like something ergregiois. To me the most egregious thing on that clip is the official standing there and then doing nothing. Should have flagged it for celebrating so close to and making contact with a defenseless player on the ground but it's just so random, it's not a pre-meditated thing.

The player is excited and jumping on his teammates back to celebrate the play, his teammate isn't expecting someone to be jumping on him since he buckles under it. From the time the guy starts buckling and it's apparent the jumper is going to make contact with Allen he has who knows how many mili-seconds to decide "hey I'm gonna try to punch him while I'm at it." Unless you're assuming his goal was to hit Allen all along? Come on guys.

i said he didn't make a fist


but he does land on his foot and looks plenty stable before hitting josh.....if he was catching himself, we wouldn't have stood right back up like that


and yeah....i do think he ran over to celebrate and saw josh and decide to give him a shot


dude looks super guilty when the ref looks up at him

Others have said closed fist. What you interpret as a "guilty" look could also be a "oh poop, I didn't mean to touch him I hope I don't get a flag" look. We'll have to agree to disagree on this.

It's just amazing the official didn't throw a flag. The first part of the clip shows him running over with his hand up to stop the action and he is literally one foot from Allen on the ground, then it cuts to the jumping action where you can't exactly see how close the official was to the whole matter. The fact that he ran in with his hand up before the jumping and was right there and didn't throw a flag is ridiculous.