Realistic Expectations for 2014

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kansasCowboy wrote:5-7. Tough schedule and a transition year.
+1 That physical brand of football won't just appear over night. Wyoming got destroyed by physical teams in 2013. This will take time for Bohl. A bowl game would be a massive success.
About how I'm seeing it. We do have a lot of guys coming off of redshirt seasons, especially on the d-line, so maybe they can help.
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If I had to bet, 3-5 wins with that schedule and a new system.
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I think the real problem is that we do not have enough depth and size along the lines. Also, do we have enough secondary speed to get into position to make tackles?

I expect things like tackling can be fixed over the offseason. My point of reference is the Tiller years between the K-State Copper Bowl loss and the 1996 season. In each of those years there was a basic fundamental flaw that cost us games but that was corrected the following year. One year it was tackling. One year it was turnovers, I think that we had one year that we were among the most penalized teams in the WAC. Each year the preceding year's major problem was fixed. By 1996 we not only fixed those problems, but we got faster on defense.

The real problem going into next year is that I do not think that the new staff has very many scholarships to work with. I expect to see several defensive linemen in the next class along with TE, FB and corners. If we only have 11 seniors plus 3 defections that I remember, I do not know if there are enough scholarships to round out the class apart from forced attrition. I think the D-line and cornerbacks will go a long way toward determining whether we are 4-8 or 7-5.

The other issue is if the NDSU D-coordinator stays in Fargo, this could end up like when Joe Glenn's OC stayed in Montana to take over that program with Coach Glenn moved to Laramie.

My guess is that both Boise State and Oregon are on their way to coming back to the pack given the coaching changes.
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LasCrucesPoke wrote:If we tackle like we did last year, Craig Bohl will make them practice tackling 2 hours a day.
this is truly needed, practice, practice, practice......and shutting the run down
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I had stated for the 2013 season, that 7-5 would be a miracle finish and 6-6 most likely. I was wrong (thanks Dave)
For 2014 I see 6-6 as being probably the best to expect. Great JC recruits on the O-line could change my prediction.
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WyoExpat wrote:I think the real problem is that we do not have enough depth and size along the lines. Also, do we have enough secondary speed to get into position to make tackles?

I expect things like tackling can be fixed over the offseason. My point of reference is the Tiller years between the K-State Copper Bowl loss and the 1996 season. In each of those years there was a basic fundamental flaw that cost us games but that was corrected the following year. One year it was tackling. One year it was turnovers, I think that we had one year that we were among the most penalized teams in the WAC. Each year the preceding year's major problem was fixed. By 1996 we not only fixed those problems, but we got faster on defense.

The real problem going into next year is that I do not think that the new staff has very many scholarships to work with. I expect to see several defensive linemen in the next class along with TE, FB and corners. If we only have 11 seniors plus 3 defections that I remember, I do not know if there are enough scholarships to round out the class apart from forced attrition. I think the D-line and cornerbacks will go a long way toward determining whether we are 4-8 or 7-5.

The other issue is if the NDSU D-coordinator stays in Fargo, this could end up like when Joe Glenn's OC stayed in Montana to take over that program with Coach Glenn moved to Laramie.

My guess is that both Boise State and Oregon are on their way to coming back to the pack given the coaching changes.
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WyoExpat wrote: My guess is that both Boise State and Oregon are on their way to coming back to the pack given the coaching changes.
Oregon is not coming back to the pack in 2014. They'll return 9 starters on offense, including healthy Mariota. Losses are more significant on defense (5 returning starters) but being a defensive starter at Oregon is almost as meaningless as being a starter in hockey, they rotate bodies so much.

I think we win no more than 7 games next season.
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I predict 4-8....I hope it's better, but that's what I expect.
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CowboyNV wrote:I predict 4-8....I hope it's better, but that's what I expect.
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Just improving the special teams and defense should get us 2 more wins.
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Very possible. O-line though NEEDS to be improved, period. But it sounds like Bohl will do that.
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WYCowboy wrote:Just improving the special teams and defense should get us 2 more wins.
My concern is that, for the most part, we get the "good" teams at home and the "bad" teams on the road. Normally, that is a good thing, but for next year it concerns me. We do get AF at home so that is good. However, I worry about trips to NM and HI. We win those in Laramie, but a toss up on the road, IMO. For home games, I like Montana and FA (along with AF). I think BSU, USU, and even SJSU are not great matchups.

If we had NM and HI at our place, I would agree our chances are decent for getting 6 wins (MT, FA, AF, NM, HI, and sneak another somewhere). I like our chances less with our schedule next year.
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Well, SJSU loses Fales.
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I think 5 to 7 wins is in the realm of possibility.

BTW, Tom Burman on his talk with KFBC yesterday was asked about adding a 13th game. He responded that he didn't think so with the difficult schedule and the fact it's hard to get teams to start series in Laramie -- He didn't want to add another road game. He said he'd talk with Coach Bohl, but his sense at this point is no 13th game.
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WYCowboy wrote:Just improving the special teams and defense should get us 2 more wins.
"Just" improving the special teams and defense. That's all we gotta do, no big task or anything.
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WYCowboy wrote:Just improving the special teams and defense should get us 2 more wins.
"Just" improving the special teams and defense. That's all we gotta do, no big task or anything.
Where do you start with them? There are so many places on both of them that need improvement, just choose anything.
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WYCowboy wrote:
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WYCowboy wrote:Just improving the special teams and defense should get us 2 more wins.
"Just" improving the special teams and defense. That's all we gotta do, no big task or anything.
Where do you start with them? There are so many places on both of them that need improvement, just choose anything.
Well yeah, that's what I'm saying. Both were so abysmal this year (especially in the second half of the season) that both have to get way better before it's worth a two win improvement. Improving them to that degree will be a pretty big undertaking.
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WYCowboy wrote:
Cowduck wrote:
WYCowboy wrote:Just improving the special teams and defense should get us 2 more wins.
"Just" improving the special teams and defense. That's all we gotta do, no big task or anything.
Where do you start with them? There are so many places on both of them that need improvement, just choose anything.
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ItSucksToBeACSURam wrote:
WYCowboy wrote:
Cowduck wrote:
WYCowboy wrote:Just improving the special teams and defense should get us 2 more wins.
"Just" improving the special teams and defense. That's all we gotta do, no big task or anything.
Where do you start with them? There are so many places on both of them that need improvement, just choose anything.
There's no where else to go but up! They were so god
Awful that there's no real way to get worse...
We've been saying that for a few years though...
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