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Brew_Poke wrote:

Asmodeanreborn wrote:In all honesty, why keep playing Kirk at this point. This was one of the easiest games remaining and he was terrible. We're not going anywhere anyway, so why not let one of the younger guys try?

Because then they'd burn a whole year of eligibility, and I think Bohl is thinking that playing Kirkegaard is in the best long-term interests of the team. At least that's what I hope he's thinking.

I'd just say that I guess we should trust and maybe believe that a guy (Bohl) who built a program from nothing to a three time champion probably has an idea of what he's doing. But it was a process at NDSU and will be here too.

The difference between Bohl and Glenn is that Bohl built NDSU. Glenn, he just stepped into a dynasty and continued the process for a few years.
I think Bohl will have this team progressing year to year. And I think patience is key to our progress. If he pulls a Glenn and starts with a bad year, follows with a good year and then progressively gets worse, then he's not able. But if his teams continue to progress like they did at NDSU, then we will be on the right track. And that's what this program needs. Not a quick fix. It needs a complete make over.

kansasCowboy wrote:

Brew_Poke wrote:

Asmodeanreborn wrote:In all honesty, why keep playing Kirk at this point. This was one of the easiest games remaining and he was terrible. We're not going anywhere anyway, so why not let one of the younger guys try?

Because then they'd burn a whole year of eligibility, and I think Bohl is thinking that playing Kirkegaard is in the best long-term interests of the team. At least that's what I hope he's thinking.

I'd just say that I guess we should trust and maybe believe that a guy (Bohl) who built a program from nothing to a three time champion probably has an idea of what he's doing. But it was a process at NDSU and will be here too.

The difference between Bohl and Glenn is that Bohl built NDSU. Glenn, he just stepped into a dynasty and continued the process for a few years.
I think Bohl will have this team progressing year to year. And I think patience is key to our progress. If he pulls a Glenn and starts with a bad year, follows with a good year and then progressively gets worse, then he's not able. But if his teams continue to progress like they did at NDSU, then we will be on the right track. And that's what this program needs. Not a quick fix. It needs a complete make over.

That's not quite fair to Glenn. He took a nothing program at Northern Colorado and turned them into 2x division 2 national champions before he went to Montana.

I was just talking about the comparison of the two at the FCS level. Glenn didn't have to build up Montana, it was already there. He just stepped in and continued the process. Bohl took and made something from nothing.

kansasCowboy wrote:I was just talking about the comparison of the two at the FCS level. Glenn didn't have to build up Montana, it was already there. He just stepped in and continued the process. Bohl took and made something from nothing.

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I see double-digit win seasons galore in the 80s and 90s before Bohl showed. Bohl is much like Chris Petersen...he took NDSU to the next level, but NDSU has been having success for decades.

J-Rod wrote:

kansasCowboy wrote:I was just talking about the comparison of the two at the FCS level. Glenn didn't have to build up Montana, it was already there. He just stepped in and continued the process. Bohl took and made something from nothing.

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I see double-digit win seasons galore in the 80s and 90s before Bohl showed. Bohl is much like Chris Petersen...he took NDSU to the next level, but NDSU has been having success for decades.

The real question is can Bohl turn Wyoming into Boise State 2.0?

Wyokie wrote: The real question is can Bohl turn Wyoming into Boise State 2.0?

Boise State has 6 losing seasons since World War II. There is no next Boise State. They are an anomaly in college sports.

J-Rod wrote:

Wyokie wrote: The real question is can Bohl turn Wyoming into Boise State 2.0?

Boise State has 6 losing seasons since World War II. There is no next Boise State. They are an anomaly in college sports.

Then explain Nebraska. 9+ wins every year from 1962 to 2001 with the exception of two seasons (1967 & 1968).

Wyokie wrote:

J-Rod wrote:

Wyokie wrote: The real question is can Bohl turn Wyoming into Boise State 2.0?

Boise State has 6 losing seasons since World War II. There is no next Boise State. They are an anomaly in college sports.

Then explain Nebraska. 9+ wins every year from 1962 to 2001 with the exception of two seasons (1967 & 1968).

Bob Devaney coaching tree.

Wyokie wrote: Then explain Nebraska. 9+ wins every year from 1962 to 2001 with the exception of two seasons (1967 & 1968).

We're talking non-P5 schools here. I was referring to you suggesting another non-P5 school could be the next Boise. There is no next Boise.

J-Rod wrote:

Wyokie wrote: Then explain Nebraska. 9+ wins every year from 1962 to 2001 with the exception of two seasons (1967 & 1968).

We're talking non-P5 schools here. I was referring to you suggesting another non-P5 school could be the next Boise. There is no next Boise.

I agree with this. The Power 5 schools are going to set their own rules and further separate themselves from the pack. FBS is two tiered already. They'll make it official. No way can a school sneak up on the Power 5 in the very near future.

J-Rod wrote:

kansasCowboy wrote:I was just talking about the comparison of the two at the FCS level. Glenn didn't have to build up Montana, it was already there. He just stepped in and continued the process. Bohl took and made something from nothing.

http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/di ... /index.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I see double-digit win seasons galore in the 80s and 90s before Bohl showed. Bohl is much like Chris Petersen...he took NDSU to the next level, but NDSU has been having success for decades.

D2 level ......he guided through transition to 1aa or fcs

J-Rod wrote:

kansasCowboy wrote:I was just talking about the comparison of the two at the FCS level. Glenn didn't have to build up Montana, it was already there. He just stepped in and continued the process. Bohl took and made something from nothing.

http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/di ... /index.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I see double-digit win seasons galore in the 80s and 90s before Bohl showed. Bohl is much like Chris Petersen...he took NDSU to the next level, but NDSU has been having success for decades.

1. As was already mentioned, that success was at the Division II level.
2. When Bohl went to NDSU, they were coming off a 2-8 season.
3. I see 10 win seasons in the 80s and 90s at Wyoming too, does that mean you also won't give Bohl credit when he turns around the Cowboy program, either?