NDSU
Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 12:16 pm
Refs trying to give this game to them.
I'm not sure that will ever happen. The only conference that remotely makes sense geographically is the MAC. After that, next highest probability might be the Mountain West.WYO_Fan_inPA wrote:I find it amazing what NDSU is doing in the FCS. The Bison is absolutely tearing up the competition. I would think the school would have the opportunity to move up to FBS in several years if it so desires.
And I don't know why they'd want to. Great success, exciting atmosphere, happy fans...why in the world would they want to enter the dismal arms race of the FBS?I find it amazing what NDSU is doing in the FCS. The Bison is absolutely tearing up the competition. I would think the school would have the opportunity to move up to FBS in several years if it so desires.
Might be a little more Money from a Bowl appearance but it would be saying good bye to being known, forget about ESPN Gameday ever showing up again would just be another program in a bottom feeding G5 conference.SnowyRange wrote:And I don't know why they'd want to. Great success, exciting atmosphere, happy fans...why in the world would they want to enter the dismal arms race of the FBS?I find it amazing what NDSU is doing in the FCS. The Bison is absolutely tearing up the competition. I would think the school would have the opportunity to move up to FBS in several years if it so desires.
Says losing teams.SnowyRange wrote:And I don't know why they'd want to. Great success, exciting atmosphere, happy fans...why in the world would they want to enter the dismal arms race of the FBS?I find it amazing what NDSU is doing in the FCS. The Bison is absolutely tearing up the competition. I would think the school would have the opportunity to move up to FBS in several years if it so desires.
That's the vibes I'm getting too. About 90% of the donors and fans would say goodbye.ragtimejoe1 wrote:Says losing teams.SnowyRange wrote:And I don't know why they'd want to. Great success, exciting atmosphere, happy fans...why in the world would they want to enter the dismal arms race of the FBS?I find it amazing what NDSU is doing in the FCS. The Bison is absolutely tearing up the competition. I would think the school would have the opportunity to move up to FBS in several years if it so desires.
I wonder what response they would get if they asked Boise? You make it sound rosy in FCS. A better spot for WYO, in your opinion?
Says winning teams.Says losing teams.
I would agree with this.McPeachy wrote:Pretty simple...
Take NDSU and make them FBS, and they start losing 6 games a year, and you can say bye-bye to the fanbase and donors. Then they become what they are - the Idaho State of FBS football.
Now, if they stay FCS, they remain a big fish in that pond. Like Montana, et al. If I were NDSU, I would stay the course in FCS forever. Why f-word with something that doesn't need f-word with?
Exactly.Pretty simple...
Take NDSU and make them FBS, and they start losing 6 games a year, and you can say bye-bye to the fanbase and donors. Then they become what they are - the Idaho State of FBS football.
Now, if they stay FCS, they remain a big fish in that pond. Like Montana, et al. If I were NDSU, I would stay the course in FCS forever. Why f-word with something that doesn't need f-word with?
Many montana fans want out of FCS now. They are seen as a peer university with UNC, Eastern Washington, Portland State, Weber State, middle of nowhere Utah team since that is who they associate with in an athletic conference.McPeachy wrote:Pretty simple...
Take NDSU and make them FBS, and they start losing 6 games a year, and you can say bye-bye to the fanbase and donors. Then they become what they are - the Idaho State of FBS football.
Now, if they stay FCS, they remain a big fish in that pond. Like Montana, et al. If I were NDSU, I would stay the course in FCS forever. Why f-word with something that doesn't need f-word with?
One counter I will propose to this argument.McPeachy wrote:Pretty simple...
Take NDSU and make them FBS, and they start losing 6 games a year, and you can say bye-bye to the fanbase and donors. Then they become what they are - the Idaho State of FBS football.
Now, if they stay FCS, they remain a big fish in that pond. Like Montana, et al. If I were NDSU, I would stay the course in FCS forever. Why f-word with something that doesn't need f-word with?
UND would follow them up again like the annoying little brother that they areragtimejoe1 wrote:NDSU would be the only FBS program in ND. Intriguing to say the least.
I think it could work well for them; 5 million per year would put their budget in MWC ballpark.
joshvanklomp wrote:One counter I will propose to this argument.McPeachy wrote:Pretty simple...
Take NDSU and make them FBS, and they start losing 6 games a year, and you can say bye-bye to the fanbase and donors. Then they become what they are - the Idaho State of FBS football.
Now, if they stay FCS, they remain a big fish in that pond. Like Montana, et al. If I were NDSU, I would stay the course in FCS forever. Why f-word with something that doesn't need f-word with?
There were people around Fargo who thought the same thing about the move from Division II to FCS.
Bottom-third in all of FBS, maybe. But you very well know that there is a large difference between the P5 and G5.NowherePoke wrote:Look at budgets, facilities, attendance, etc. NDSU was near the top of D2 and while they had to increase the budget, they had the facilities and attendance of a top tier FCS team and the budget gap was in the 7 figures.
Now, if they move to FBS, they are suddenly in the bottom 3rd by all those metrics and the gap between them and top tier programs is 8 figures.
NDSU could be a FBS program and at least be competitive in the MAC. The question is: is that worth it?
One word Mr. Vanklomp: HOCKEYjoshvanklomp wrote:UND would follow them up again like the annoying little brother that they areragtimejoe1 wrote:NDSU would be the only FBS program in ND. Intriguing to say the least.
I think it could work well for them; 5 million per year would put their budget in MWC ballpark.