Maybe so, but those days are long gone.For our state, team, environment, weather, students, fan attendance, list goes on and on... Games with a 1 PM kickoff are the best.
Yup, clearly Craig Bohl has no intention of doing so and that's why he was hired. To make sure Wyoming never has another successful season!BeaverPoke wrote:The athletic director has no vision, the BOT fired the one guy who was willing to change the culture of losing.
early season game at 6 PM vs Oregon in a few years. game on. Nov vs New Mex? Hell no.pokefanchaz7 wrote:I think some teams would work at night but only under the right circumstance.
Needs to be early season and marquee matchups.
Damn Beaver a lot of negative posts lately. Let me be the first to congratulate yourself and welcome you to the dark side.BeaverPoke wrote:The bigger issue is the fans. The fans dont care. The fans hope for 6-6. The entire athletic department is ran poorly. Go look at how Boise or Utah or any Pac12 or Big12 school and see how they run things.LanderPoke wrote:What, then? Because we've sucked for 15 years? All that makes you are fair-weather fans. Why don't you just turn in your Wyoming fan cards right now if we suck so bad? As soon as we have success you three are going to be right back on the bandwagon thumping your chests. Because fair-weather fans like some of you leave for "greener" pastures we've got to find some new ones to fill the stadium, hence advertising.BeaverPoke wrote:I feel like I agree with what you're saying.Brew_Poke wrote:I think that's an oversimplistic, pollyanna-ish take on it. Advertising wouldn't have gotten me there this year. I didn't see a game at all in person for the first time in 14 years this year. There is nothing that the CJC or the AD could've done with advertising to get me there. The problems go a lot deeper than not 'getting the word out' enough. Everybody knows that UW has a football team that plays in Laramie on 6 Saturdays in the fall.LanderPoke wrote:Advertising, advertising advertising, advertising, advertising and, wait, oh a little bit more advertising! In order to build fan support and excitement for UW athletics it's going to take some... wait for it... advertising! Send out letters to UW alumni, get some floats in parades state-wide, distribute pamphlets in gas stations, billboards in every town. We've got to make it seem cool to come to Laramie to see games (which it really is). Athletics can be a great tool because it's the only real connection many of us have left to the Univ. of Wyoming.
There's a bigger issue with UW athletics than advertising.
The athletic director has no vision, the BOT fired the one guy who was willing to change the culture of losing. The culture or demand for successful college athletics doesnt exist. The students dont give a poop compared to other schools. Fans come to watch other teams not our own.
And no im not a fair weather fan. This is the first year I didnt go to a wyo home game but I did go to a road game. Ive been a fan through all the losing and will continue to be. That doesnt mean I dont acknowledge the piss poor result of uw athletics.
Roll your eyes at me all you want but I am right.joshvanklomp wrote:Yup, clearly Craig Bohl has no intention of doing so and that's why he was hired. To make sure Wyoming never has another successful season!BeaverPoke wrote:The athletic director has no vision, the BOT fired the one guy who was willing to change the culture of losing.
Dark side? Or facing the reality of where Wyo stands in college athletics?Cuttslam wrote: Damn Beaver a lot of negative posts lately. Let me be the first to congratulate yourself and welcome you to the dark side.
I have lived in Denver going on 19 years and would move back to Wyoming given the opportunity. Most of my friends feel the exact same way.LanderPoke wrote:Oh, OK?? A lot of people have the means to gtfo of Wyoming if they want. Most live here because they love Wyoming and all it offers. Why do you two even root for UW, anyway? Why don't you root for CU and ASU cuz Colorado and Arizona are so much better in your minds?Cuttslam wrote:Ha, I left at the ripe old age of 20. Went down to ASU to hang with friends for spring break and transfered that fall.Brew_Poke wrote:That's because anybody with any means gets the f-word out as soon as they can, and mostly don't look back. I was a big exception. I didn't leave until I was in my late 30s.SnowyRange wrote:Also keep in mind that Wyoming has a relatively small percentage -- I think only three states are lower -- of people living here who were also born in the state.
That means that on top of our tiny population, we just don't have many who were born and raised here...and youth is the time when diehard allegiances to college teams are formed.
Me too!joshvanklomp wrote:OK, you you said theyn fird the one person willing to change the culture. Meaning there's no one else who could possibly change it. Only him. That I have a problem with.
I think you nailed that perfectly. I don't think I realized what was happening at first, but by now I do- it's just a whole different animal.WestWYOPoke wrote:I can see why the Beav has suddenly become more...um...objective?? Or downright pessimistic. Same thing happened to me after I left UW and went to grad school. When you start seeing how things are run at a P5 school, and the size of the crowds, and the gameday atmosphere, and the national exposure, etc, etc. you start to get an inferiority complex with everything related to Wyoming. You start to wonder, how can we ever compete.
The first time I came back to a game at the War after having spent 2 seasons of games at Camp Randall in front of 80,000+ people, I thought "wow, I don't remember the War being this small or this quiet". It definitely gives you a WHOLE new perspective on things.
Now I'm not saying, screw it, we're doomed, what's the point...not at all. I still support Wyoming completely, and I love catching as many games as my schedule/budget allows. But I kind of understand this sense of doom and gloom from Beav, because I've been where he is - from Wyo to a bigger school - and seen the difference. He might not even realize that's what's happening, I know I didn't at first.
Just be glad he didn't transfer to Oregon or it'd be 10 times worse.
I thought that was going to be my fate. My wife's from Denver(Brighton) and all roads seemed to lead there after graduation. I just don't like the big city..Thankfully I found a good enough opportunity here in God's country. I would love for there to be jobs for everyone that really wants to be here.JimmyDimes wrote:I have lived in Denver going on 19 years and would move back to Wyoming given the opportunity. Most of my friends feel the exact same way.LanderPoke wrote:Oh, OK?? A lot of people have the means to gtfo of Wyoming if they want. Most live here because they love Wyoming and all it offers. Why do you two even root for UW, anyway? Why don't you root for CU and ASU cuz Colorado and Arizona are so much better in your minds?Cuttslam wrote:Ha, I left at the ripe old age of 20. Went down to ASU to hang with friends for spring break and transfered that fall.Brew_Poke wrote:That's because anybody with any means gets the f-word out as soon as they can, and mostly don't look back. I was a big exception. I didn't leave until I was in my late 30s.SnowyRange wrote:Also keep in mind that Wyoming has a relatively small percentage -- I think only three states are lower -- of people living here who were also born in the state.
That means that on top of our tiny population, we just don't have many who were born and raised here...and youth is the time when diehard allegiances to college teams are formed.
BTW, I grew up in Lander.
Yes Mr ObviousBeaverPoke wrote:Dark side? Or facing the reality of where Wyo stands in college athletics?Cuttslam wrote: Damn Beaver a lot of negative posts lately. Let me be the first to congratulate yourself and welcome you to the dark side.
I do, I root for ASU and love U of A hoop and I have ASU hoop seasonLanderPoke wrote:Oh, OK?? A lot of people have the means to gtfo of Wyoming if they want. Most live here because they love Wyoming and all it offers. Why do you two even root for UW, anyway? Why don't you root for CU and ASU cuz Colorado and Arizona are so much better in your minds?Cuttslam wrote:Ha, I left at the ripe old age of 20. Went down to ASU to hang with friends for spring break and transfered that fall.Brew_Poke wrote:That's because anybody with any means gets the f-word out as soon as they can, and mostly don't look back. I was a big exception. I didn't leave until I was in my late 30s.SnowyRange wrote:Also keep in mind that Wyoming has a relatively small percentage -- I think only three states are lower -- of people living here who were also born in the state.
That means that on top of our tiny population, we just don't have many who were born and raised here...and youth is the time when diehard allegiances to college teams are formed.
So do you have any allegiance to Wyoming or are you just a troll?Cuttslam wrote:I do, I root for ASU and love U of A hoop and I have ASU hoop seasonLanderPoke wrote:Oh, OK?? A lot of people have the means to gtfo of Wyoming if they want. Most live here because they love Wyoming and all it offers. Why do you two even root for UW, anyway? Why don't you root for CU and ASU cuz Colorado and Arizona are so much better in your minds?Cuttslam wrote:Ha, I left at the ripe old age of 20. Went down to ASU to hang with friends for spring break and transfered that fall.Brew_Poke wrote:That's because anybody with any means gets the f-word out as soon as they can, and mostly don't look back. I was a big exception. I didn't leave until I was in my late 30s.SnowyRange wrote:Also keep in mind that Wyoming has a relatively small percentage -- I think only three states are lower -- of people living here who were also born in the state.
That means that on top of our tiny population, we just don't have many who were born and raised here...and youth is the time when diehard allegiances to college teams are formed.
tickets in the cheap seats but usually always sit in the lower bowl WITHOUT being hassled.
I remember playing UTEP for the title game in Laramie. It was a nice day for November and the place was packed. I think the year was either 1987 or 1988.kansasCowboy wrote:Simply not true. We did this is 96 going 10-2. Avg attendance was 17k. That's 2k less than we avgd going 4-8 and 5-7 the last two years. And we were still considered in the running for conf titles all the way to 2000. That's a season of 8-5, no bowl, avg attend 18k; 8-3, no bowl, avg attend 17k; and 7-4, no bowl; avg attend 18k. We competed, we were known for taking on big name school in their backyard and coming up just short (Colorado, later won by forfeit, Georgia, Tenn) and we were considered contenders against rivals like Utah, BYU and CSU. We weren't getting blown out and we were winning these, and yet people still never showed. Winning does not necessarily mean butts in seats. We have our own proof of that in the not so distant past.SnowyRange wrote:I think it's just the opposite. It is for instance a fantastic recruiting tool: "We play on ESPN!" (And our whole future depends on recruiting.)as much as I love the exposure and $ from ESPN games, they kill us in attendance if it's in Nov at 6-9pm at night,
We need to stick with noon or 2pm kickoffs especially late in the season, people are willing travel then but not for a 9pm game in Laramie in November, it's an easy fix, I'd rather be on Root than ESPN for those games that only matter to our bottom line...that's my feelings on that
And, if we're going 9-3, and contending for titles, that stadium would be full on a Sunday morning at 2 a.m.
It was 1988 and CBS televised the game as well.JimmyDimes wrote: I remember playing UTEP for the title game in Laramie. It was a nice day for November and the place was packed. I think the year was either 1987 or 1988.
We can't.I can see why the Beav has suddenly become more...um...objective?? Or downright pessimistic. Same thing happened to me after I left UW and went to grad school. When you start seeing how things are run at a P5 school, and the size of the crowds, and the gameday atmosphere, and the national exposure, etc, etc. you start to get an inferiority complex with everything related to Wyoming. You start to wonder, how can we ever compete.
