" Wyoming is a joke and won't be televising or streaming.."

Everything Wyoming Cowboy and Mountain West football!
User avatar
djm19
WyoNation Addict
Posts: 3002
Joined: Wed Aug 03, 2011 2:34 pm
Location: UT
Has liked: 1 time
Been liked: 3 times

Just to set the record straight, had nothing to do with blacks being in the church, nothing to do with them not being "bishops."

FWIW. ...https://www.lds.org/topics/race-and-the ... d?lang=eng" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Not all of us are as bad as some on here think.

Flame on...

Can we have on thread not morph into a BYU discussion? I hate them as much as anyone, but enough. Profess to hate them, but you can't quit them. Starting to think it is a weird crush thing.

Beav, are you still in Corvallis then?
User avatar
BeaverPoke
Bronco-Buster
Posts: 8009
Joined: Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:00 pm
Location: Corvallis, Oregon

djm19 wrote:Just to set the record straight, had nothing to do with blacks being in the church, nothing to do with them not being "bishops."

FWIW. ...https://www.lds.org/topics/race-and-the ... d?lang=eng" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Not all of us are as bad as some on here think.

Flame on...

Can we have on thread not morph into a BYU discussion? I hate them as much as anyone, but enough. Profess to hate them, but you can't quit them. Starting to think it is a weird crush thing.

Beav, are you still in Corvallis then?

When I said it had to do with the church not letting black people be Bishops I meant not letting blacks into the Priesthood. I assumed Bishops=Priesthood. Apparently that is not entirely correct.

But yes I am in Corvallis still. And will be in Oregon for a while. I believe me and the future Mrs. BeaverPoke are going to start our "real lives" up here.
If you ever need to laugh, just remember there was some idiot who wanted Bohl fired after 2 seasons.
WyoBrandX
A Real Cowboy
Posts: 1785
Joined: Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:01 pm
Location: Laramie, Wyoming

BeaverPoke wrote:
ragtimejoe1 wrote:
Douglaspoke wrote:HAYDUKE:

Appreciate your comments on the ND board. You certainly have it right that in many ways that but for BYU that the Cowboys might still be riding the high of the Sugar Bowl year and the mo they had that year before the"incident" that derailed Cowboy Football. In my opinion it has never got back, Paul Roach almost got us there, but we probably needed a few more years of him and a bowl win that year over Iowa would have gone a long ways.
Anyone who reads my comments knows that I can't stand byu, but I fail to see how that was their fault. They (byu) were who they were. We can't control that.

What we could control was our response and we dropped the ball, IMO.

Why would we want to look in the mirror and see why we suck when we can just blame BYU and pretend it's their fault?

I mean seriously.
We had some players trying to make a social justice/civil rights movement and a coach who (right or wrong, I don't care at this point) wasn't okay with the way the players wanted to act and carry out their plan and in the long run, it cost them their spots on the team. It just so happened to be that these players were some of our best players.

The fall of the Wyoming Cowboys was because of the Wyoming Cowboys.
This really is an interesting debate. I can certainly understand at the time, even today, a coach saying, "You are here to play football. Take your problems out on them on the field. Your part of a team and the team is what matters." I can also see the flip side of it.

It would have been better if Eaton would have let them wear their wrist bands and protest. If the incident had never happened, I don't know if we would have continued our success or not. We had a pretty good finish to that year losing 14 players midseason.

It could be argued losing Lloyd Eaton in 1970 might have been the reason things went down hill. I remember hearing a Paul Roach interview that Eaton had taught smaller defensive guys techniques that put them on par with other teams that had much bigger offensive players.

In the long run, I'm not sure how much it would have mattered anyways. College football has been heading towards potent offenses and penalizing defenses more for hitting offensive players. Nobody likes seeing an 0-3 game at halftime.

I like our current philosophy. Focus on controlling the game in every way possible. Take your time to score and score. Get your defense off the field without giving up a score as quick as possible.
WyoBrandX
A Real Cowboy
Posts: 1785
Joined: Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:01 pm
Location: Laramie, Wyoming

LanderPoke wrote:
WyoBrandX wrote:Something happened in 2007 that started wiping out the middle of the mountain west conference.

The country went into a recession. People started watching more TV. Advertisers started paying more. Bigger conferences started collecting more revenue from TV. The big guys raided the top of the MWC. We lost our TV station. The middle started falling apart. All the realignment crap.

Now the economy is growing again. There is a trend towards cutting the cable. Sooner than later the ESPN bubble will burst. The best thing we can do is win, win hard, keep our good coaches around, and upgrade facilities. When that bubble bursts, we want that momentum going - and it could slingshot us to the top pretty quickly.
So you're saying a good way to support the Pokes is to get rid of ESPN?
I think so. ESPN makes their money on Ads. They base their ads on some odd heuristics with viewers. They give money to conferences based upon number of people that watch the game. If you don't watch them, your one set of eyeballs not generating revenue. Its obviously all in the hands of ESPN on how they want this to work out.

I guess on the flip side, watch espn, but only when the cowboys are playing on it. If you watch when Oregon or Florida is playing, your just helping those teams out more and cutting Wyoming out.

I do think it is a bubble though. It will burst.
WyoBrandX
A Real Cowboy
Posts: 1785
Joined: Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:01 pm
Location: Laramie, Wyoming

It was a different time. A different article. I'd definitely recommend reading it:

http://www.si.com/vault/1969/11/03/6110 ... of-trouble" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
User avatar
ItSucksToBeACSURam
WyoNation Addict
Posts: 4683
Joined: Mon Aug 27, 2012 9:53 pm

WyoBrandX wrote:Something happened in 2007 that started wiping out the middle of the mountain west conference.

The country went into a recession. People started watching more TV. Advertisers started paying more. Bigger conferences started collecting more revenue from TV. The big guys raided the top of the MWC. We lost our TV station. The middle started falling apart. All the realignment crap.

Now the economy is growing again. There is a trend towards cutting the cable. Sooner than later the ESPN bubble will burst. The best thing we can do is win, win hard, keep our good coaches around, and upgrade facilities. When that bubble bursts, we want that momentum going - and it could slingshot us to the top pretty quickly.
I agree with this completely. There is going to be a time in the very near future where Internet streaming, a la carte cable is going to be the norm. This BS of being forced to take every channel in existence for the 3 you want is over. I cut cable and went to SlingTV and its the best decision I've made in awhile. If we can build success without the support of the current method of media, we will be well ahead of the curve when the death occurs. Astute observation WBX
Image
User avatar
BJC
A Real Cowboy
Posts: 1257
Joined: Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:18 pm

Thinking about doing the SlingTV thing.....but it is FOR ESPN. Maybe I am just getting older but most channels are simply garbage.
User avatar
ItSucksToBeACSURam
WyoNation Addict
Posts: 4683
Joined: Mon Aug 27, 2012 9:53 pm

BJC wrote:Thinking about doing the SlingTV thing.....but it is FOR ESPN. Maybe I am just getting older but most channels are simply garbage.
The espn feature was what pushed me over the edge. I needed sports of some kind in my life
Image
User avatar
BJC
A Real Cowboy
Posts: 1257
Joined: Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:18 pm

And it is basically some of the only content that is time sensitive.....dvr on demand etc for anything else
Geaux_sioux
Buckaroo
Posts: 24
Joined: Mon Jul 20, 2015 1:38 pm

WyoBrandX wrote:It was a different time. A different article. I'd definitely recommend reading it:

http://www.si.com/vault/1969/11/03/6110 ... of-trouble" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Wow that was interesting. It's always fun to read those old articles where people will actually speak their mind in an interview. I'm not going to pretend that I can form an opinion based on one article about a circumstance that I previously knew nothing about but that situation seemed a bit off. We'll see if Bohl can bring you guys back to the top of the MWC.
User avatar
Wyo2dal
Bronco-Buster
Posts: 7392
Joined: Sat Sep 01, 2007 12:36 pm
Location: Dome of Doom
Been liked: 1 time

there was a time when games in the AA were streamed at a really poop quality. After I helped them with software and told them what hard ware to get the quality improved 10 times. However they never got better hardware. That is just one of the main reasons UW does not stream football games.

It has nothing to do with tickets and everything to do with staff and equipment. You can cover the entire AA with a third of the people and equipment that would be required to cover the war.
WyoBrandX
A Real Cowboy
Posts: 1785
Joined: Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:01 pm
Location: Laramie, Wyoming

Wyo2dal wrote:there was a time when games in the AA were streamed at a really poop quality. After I helped them with software and told them what hard ware to get the quality improved 10 times. However they never got better hardware. That is just one of the main reasons UW does not stream football games.

It has nothing to do with tickets and everything to do with staff and equipment. You can cover the entire AA with a third of the people and equipment that would be required to cover the war.

That's really too bad. I'm sure there are a dozen students out there that would be willing to learn how to run camera's, follow the ball, all that stuff it takes to follow the game. There's probably a few more that wouldn't mind putting together the on demand video splicing, etc. And as an experiment, pipe in Dave Walsh's broadcast in the background - and you would have a decent enough stream to show.

Sure - I make it sound easy.
User avatar
Wyo2dal
Bronco-Buster
Posts: 7392
Joined: Sat Sep 01, 2007 12:36 pm
Location: Dome of Doom
Been liked: 1 time

WyoBrandX wrote:
Wyo2dal wrote:there was a time when games in the AA were streamed at a really poop quality. After I helped them with software and told them what hard ware to get the quality improved 10 times. However they never got better hardware. That is just one of the main reasons UW does not stream football games.

It has nothing to do with tickets and everything to do with staff and equipment. You can cover the entire AA with a third of the people and equipment that would be required to cover the war.

That's really too bad. I'm sure there are a dozen students out there that would be willing to learn how to run camera's, follow the ball, all that stuff it takes to follow the game. There's probably a few more that wouldn't mind putting together the on demand video splicing, etc. And as an experiment, pipe in Dave Walsh's broadcast in the background - and you would have a decent enough stream to show.

Sure - I make it sound easy.
Ya it's a lot harder and trickier to follow a Football game in a stadium with 22 people on the field.
WYCowboy
WyoNation Moderator
Posts: 3414
Joined: Thu Aug 16, 2007 6:02 pm
Location: Wyoming
Has liked: 6 times
Been liked: 2 times

I think Wyo2dal should move up to Laramie and take over the streaming responsibility and maybe teach students how to go about this.
You can tell how big a person is by what it takes to discourage him/her.
User avatar
Wyo2dal
Bronco-Buster
Posts: 7392
Joined: Sat Sep 01, 2007 12:36 pm
Location: Dome of Doom
Been liked: 1 time

WYCowboy wrote:I think Wyo2dal should move up to Laramie and take over the streaming responsibility and maybe teach students how to go about this.
If I could ever find someone to Marry and convince them to move to Laramie that is where I would gladly move to for the rest of my life but gotta find the right someone first!
User avatar
BeaverPoke
Bronco-Buster
Posts: 8009
Joined: Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:00 pm
Location: Corvallis, Oregon

Wyo2dal wrote:
WYCowboy wrote:I think Wyo2dal should move up to Laramie and take over the streaming responsibility and maybe teach students how to go about this.
If I could ever find someone to Marry and convince them to move to Laramie that is where I would gladly move to for the rest of my life but gotta find the right someone first!

I'd suggest you look in Laramie for chicks who want to be in Laramie ;)

Move there, and it will all work out.
If you ever need to laugh, just remember there was some idiot who wanted Bohl fired after 2 seasons.
User avatar
Wyo2dal
Bronco-Buster
Posts: 7392
Joined: Sat Sep 01, 2007 12:36 pm
Location: Dome of Doom
Been liked: 1 time

BeaverPoke wrote:
Wyo2dal wrote:
WYCowboy wrote:I think Wyo2dal should move up to Laramie and take over the streaming responsibility and maybe teach students how to go about this.
If I could ever find someone to Marry and convince them to move to Laramie that is where I would gladly move to for the rest of my life but gotta find the right someone first!

I'd suggest you look in Laramie for chicks who want to be in Laramie ;)

Move there, and it will all work out.
Haha you're funny! Any smart woman would rather raise kids in Wyoming it's about as carefree as it gets.
User avatar
fromolwyoming
WyoNation Lifer
Posts: 12832
Joined: Sat Nov 28, 2009 11:13 pm
Location: Laramie, Home of the Cowboys
Has liked: 1 time
Been liked: 2 times

Just don't leave nice looking lawn ornaments out in the front yard. They tend to "walk away" from time to time.
castlerocker
Cowpoke
Posts: 563
Joined: Sat Aug 28, 2010 8:56 pm

Kevin McKinney said a few weeks ago that they were not going to stream the game because they wanted a big attendance for the first game.

If you are complaining about it and live in Wyoming, don't look for sympathy. Us folks living outside the state will just have to use our imaginations... like the old days.

I think they now have the ability now to produce a decent stream.
User avatar
Wyo2dal
Bronco-Buster
Posts: 7392
Joined: Sat Sep 01, 2007 12:36 pm
Location: Dome of Doom
Been liked: 1 time

castlerocker wrote:Kevin McKinney said a few weeks ago that they were not going to stream the game because they wanted a big attendance for the first game.

If you are complaining about it and live in Wyoming, don't look for sympathy. Us folks living outside the state will just have to use our imaginations... like the old days.

I think they now have the ability now to produce a decent stream.
Choosing to not stream it outside of Wyoming is just pure stupidity on the Universities part. Now if they wanted to black it out for Wyoming and close surrounding states that makes perfect since but to alienate people outside of the state with no chance to get there just another stupid mistake from small minded individuals.

For Football I highly doubt it, The MWC does yes but UW by itself I doubt it has the means to produce the stream for anything but the AA and the IPF? or where ever wrestling meets are done and other small locations. Same reason we still have yet to see a Spring Game or anything else Football related to be streamed by UW.
Post Reply