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Breakdown of recruits by class?

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:45 am
by ragtimejoe1
Does anyone have a breakdown of scholarship players by class for this year and last year? (i.e. how many players in each class are on roster AND on scholarship from each year)

Re: Breakdown of recruits by class?

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 1:46 pm
by Coeur d' Alene
I wish there was a link to every years signing class and depth chart and stats. So you could better recall teams and groups of players era's. And see success rates of recruits (how long they stayed and lettered/started. By year and by state

Re: Breakdown of recruits by class?

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 1:55 pm
by ragtimejoe1
I agree.

I thought someone would have this information. I was trying to figure out if we are full on schollies or sitting on some. If we are full, do we something like 40+ Freshmen, 20+ Sophomores, and the rest Junior and Senior? Do we have 20+ per class?

I was trying to put firm numbers on the "mess" Bohl inherited that everyone keeps citing.

Re: Breakdown of recruits by class?

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 1:55 pm
by JimmyDimes
Coeur d' Alene wrote:I wish there was a link to every years signing class and depth chart and stats. So you could better recall teams and groups of players era's. And see success rates of recruits (how long they stayed and lettered/started. By year and by state
This is a good source for recruiting.

http://wyoming.247sports.com/Season/201 ... ll/Commits" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Breakdown of recruits by class?

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 1:59 pm
by ragtimejoe1
JimmyDimes wrote:
Coeur d' Alene wrote:I wish there was a link to every years signing class and depth chart and stats. So you could better recall teams and groups of players era's. And see success rates of recruits (how long they stayed and lettered/started. By year and by state
This is a good source for recruiting.

http://wyoming.247sports.com/Season/201 ... ll/Commits" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
That is what I'm trying to figure out, Jimmy. According to that, there were 44 players (or so) players signed by Bohl. Does that mean we still have 41 players signed by DC or are we sitting on scholarships or ????

Re: Breakdown of recruits by class?

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 2:18 pm
by HR_Poke
I counted up the 2 deep roster based on class from the UW athletics website. The roster may be dated. Not sure if that helps or not but here is the breakdown. Doesn't include specialists.

True Freshman 9
Redshirt Fresman 11
Sophmores 8
Juniors 12
Seniors 6.

So on the 2 deep 29 or so are Bohl recruits including Coffman. 18 are DC recruits. But that is just assuming that all juniors and seniors - coffman are DC recruits. Obviously some of the somphmores could be DC recruits. Just didn't have the time to go through them all.

Re: Breakdown of recruits by class?

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 2:42 pm
by ragtimejoe1
If only 18 are DC recruits and 44 or so (some redshirting now) are Bohl's, that would leave us quite a few schollies unfilled?

Sorry, I know I'm slow :D

Re: Breakdown of recruits by class?

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 2:54 pm
by HR_Poke
ragtimejoe1 wrote:If only 18 are DC recruits and 44 or so (some redshirting now) are Bohl's, that would leave us quite a few schollies unfilled?

Sorry, I know I'm slow :D
Thats just the 2 deep. Not sure how many DC recruits are riding pine right now.

Re: Breakdown of recruits by class?

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 3:01 pm
by ragtimejoe1
HR_Poke wrote:
ragtimejoe1 wrote:If only 18 are DC recruits and 44 or so (some redshirting now) are Bohl's, that would leave us quite a few schollies unfilled?

Sorry, I know I'm slow :D
Thats just the 2 deep. Not sure how many DC recruits are riding pine right now.
I'm assuming that we have quite a few upperclassmen on the pine?

The numbers just don't make sense to me. If we have 85 schollies and Bohl has only filled somewhere around 44, then there are over 40 left but only 18 upperclassmen playing.

It makes me wonder, are the upperclassmen really worse than true freshmen or are we sitting on some unfilled scholarships?

Re: Breakdown of recruits by class?

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 3:08 pm
by HR_Poke
ragtimejoe1 wrote:
HR_Poke wrote:
ragtimejoe1 wrote:If only 18 are DC recruits and 44 or so (some redshirting now) are Bohl's, that would leave us quite a few schollies unfilled?

Sorry, I know I'm slow :D
Thats just the 2 deep. Not sure how many DC recruits are riding pine right now.
I'm assuming that we have quite a few upperclassmen on the pine?

The numbers just don't make sense to me. If we have 85 schollies and Bohl has only filled somewhere around 44, then there are over 40 left but only 18 upperclassmen playing.

It makes me wonder, are the upperclassmen really worse than true freshmen or are we sitting on some unfilled scholarships?
I used my mad excel skills on the full roster and we have the following including specialists and walk-ons

TF-43
RFR - 19
SO - 15
J - 22
SR - 9

We are going to have some seriously unbalanced classses in 4 years with the amount of TF we have. No clue how many are on scholarship though.

Re: Breakdown of recruits by class?

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 3:13 pm
by joshvanklomp
Coeur d' Alene wrote:I wish there was a link to every years signing class and depth chart and stats. So you could better recall teams and groups of players era's. And see success rates of recruits (how long they stayed and lettered/started. By year and by state
2015
2014
2013
2012
2011
2010

I think that covers everyone on the current team. Walk-ons may not be listed, not sure.

In this news archive, you can go all the way back to 2004. Just Ctrl+F and search "recruiting"

http://www.gowyo.com/sports/m-footbl/sp ... c-rel.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Breakdown of recruits by class?

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 3:16 pm
by ragtimejoe1
HR_Poke wrote:
ragtimejoe1 wrote:
HR_Poke wrote:
ragtimejoe1 wrote:If only 18 are DC recruits and 44 or so (some redshirting now) are Bohl's, that would leave us quite a few schollies unfilled?

Sorry, I know I'm slow :D
Thats just the 2 deep. Not sure how many DC recruits are riding pine right now.
I'm assuming that we have quite a few upperclassmen on the pine?

The numbers just don't make sense to me. If we have 85 schollies and Bohl has only filled somewhere around 44, then there are over 40 left but only 18 upperclassmen playing.

It makes me wonder, are the upperclassmen really worse than true freshmen or are we sitting on some unfilled scholarships?
I used my mad excel skills on the full roster and we have the following including specialists and walk-ons

TF-43
RFR - 19
SO - 15
J - 22
SR - 9

We are going to have some seriously unbalanced classses in 4 years with the amount of TF we have. No clue how many are on scholarship though.
That means 23 of those are not on scholarship. I'm assuming most of those 23 have to TF or RFR?

The other interesting thing is that means we have 7 Sophomores, 10 Juniors, and 3 Seniors that either hurt or not good enough to be on the 2-deep. Is that right? Man, crazy if we have a lot of Juniors and Seniors sitting and couldn't beat out Freshmen or RFR.

Re: Breakdown of recruits by class?

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 3:19 pm
by JimmyDimes
HR_Poke wrote:
ragtimejoe1 wrote:
HR_Poke wrote:
ragtimejoe1 wrote:If only 18 are DC recruits and 44 or so (some redshirting now) are Bohl's, that would leave us quite a few schollies unfilled?

Sorry, I know I'm slow :D
Thats just the 2 deep. Not sure how many DC recruits are riding pine right now.
I'm assuming that we have quite a few upperclassmen on the pine?

The numbers just don't make sense to me. If we have 85 schollies and Bohl has only filled somewhere around 44, then there are over 40 left but only 18 upperclassmen playing.

It makes me wonder, are the upperclassmen really worse than true freshmen or are we sitting on some unfilled scholarships?
I used my mad excel skills on the full roster and we have the following including specialists and walk-ons

TF-43
RFR - 19
SO - 15
J - 22
SR - 9

We are going to have some seriously unbalanced classses in 4 years with the amount of TF we have. No clue how many are on scholarship though.
Just over 20 in last years class. I think the walk-ons are just walk-ons, except for McKenna.

Re: Breakdown of recruits by class?

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 3:22 pm
by JimmyDimes
ragtimejoe1 wrote:
HR_Poke wrote:
ragtimejoe1 wrote:
HR_Poke wrote:
ragtimejoe1 wrote:If only 18 are DC recruits and 44 or so (some redshirting now) are Bohl's, that would leave us quite a few schollies unfilled?

Sorry, I know I'm slow :D
Thats just the 2 deep. Not sure how many DC recruits are riding pine right now.
I'm assuming that we have quite a few upperclassmen on the pine?

The numbers just don't make sense to me. If we have 85 schollies and Bohl has only filled somewhere around 44, then there are over 40 left but only 18 upperclassmen playing.

It makes me wonder, are the upperclassmen really worse than true freshmen or are we sitting on some unfilled scholarships?
I used my mad excel skills on the full roster and we have the following including specialists and walk-ons

TF-43
RFR - 19
SO - 15
J - 22
SR - 9

We are going to have some seriously unbalanced classses in 4 years with the amount of TF we have. No clue how many are on scholarship though.
That means 23 of those are not on scholarship. I'm assuming most of those 23 have to TF or RFR?

The other interesting thing is that means we have 7 Sophomores, 10 Juniors, and 3 Seniors that either hurt or not good enough to be on the 2-deep. Is that right? Man, crazy if we have a lot of Juniors and Seniors sitting and couldn't beat out Freshmen or RFR.
I went through the list of junior and seniors.....most of the seniors and/or juniors not playing are either hurt or aren't on scholarship.

Re: Breakdown of recruits by class?

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 3:33 pm
by HR_Poke
Iirc the guys who quit the last two years wold have been hrs and srs

Re: Breakdown of recruits by class?

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 3:38 pm
by cali2wyo
So basically, our basketball team last year had more seniors on scholarship than this year's football team?

Re: Breakdown of recruits by class?

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 3:49 pm
by fromolwyoming
About, yeah.

Re: Breakdown of recruits by class?

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 4:00 pm
by ragtimejoe1
JimmyDimes wrote: I went through the list of junior and seniors.....most of the seniors and/or juniors not playing are either hurt or aren't on scholarship.
So, do we have unfilled scholarships?

Re: Breakdown of recruits by class?

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 4:18 pm
by JimmyDimes
ragtimejoe1 wrote:
JimmyDimes wrote: I went through the list of junior and seniors.....most of the seniors and/or juniors not playing are either hurt or aren't on scholarship.
So, do we have unfilled scholarships?
I'm sure we do....all the guys who have left are now unfilled. Do you know if there is a limit on class size? Bohl needs to fill that limit this year.

Re: Breakdown of recruits by class?

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 4:22 pm
by HR_Poke
NCAA Bylaw 15.5.6.1 limits FBS football programs to a total number of scholarships to 85 "counters" annually including 25 scholarships for "initial counters." Counters (NCAA Bylaw 15.02.3) are individuals who are receiving institutional financial aid that is countable against the aid limitations in a sport, initial counters (NCAA Bylaw 15.02.3.1) are individuals who are receiving countable financial aid in a sport for the first time. Bylaw 13.9.2.3 limits schools to signing 28 NLI from initial signing day through May 31.[1]