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What is Bohl's fault and what is not.
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 4:02 pm
by 307bball
Ok...Here is what is Bohl's fault
A tepid overall record and a sub .500 conference record....That is what he should be criticized for.
Thing's that are not Bohl's fault
The amount of money he makes
The MWC Bowl tie-ins
Player's transfer portal decisions
Everybody is quick to act like the HC can mollify standout athletes for whom Wyoming was never the #1 school they wanted to go to. Any head coach is going to piss off his players multiple times during a season. Unless the player wants to be there .... and they have options ... they will enter the transfer portal and leave, there is just no incentive not to do it.
Re: What is Bohl's fault and what is not.
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 4:07 pm
by McPeachy
307bball wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 4:02 pm
Ok...Here is what is Bohl's fault
A tepid overall record and a sub .500 conference record....That is what he should be criticized for.
Thing's that are not Bohl's fault
The amount of money he makes
The MWC Bowl tie-ins
Player's transfer portal decisions
Everybody is quick to act like the HC can mollify standout athletes for whom Wyoming was never the #1 school they wanted to go to. Any head coach is going to piss off his players multiple times during a season. Unless the player wants to be there .... and they have options ... they will enter the transfer portal and leave, there is just no incentive not to do it.
Disagree. Treat people like poop (to use the term loosely), and they will quit. I don't care if it is McDonald's, Tesla, or the Wyoming Cowboys.
Re: What is Bohl's fault and what is not.
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 4:14 pm
by 307bball
McPeachy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 4:07 pm
307bball wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 4:02 pm
Ok...Here is what is Bohl's fault
A tepid overall record and a sub .500 conference record....That is what he should be criticized for.
Thing's that are not Bohl's fault
The amount of money he makes
The MWC Bowl tie-ins
Player's transfer portal decisions
Everybody is quick to act like the HC can mollify standout athletes for whom Wyoming was never the #1 school they wanted to go to. Any head coach is going to piss off his players multiple times during a season. Unless the player wants to be there .... and they have options ... they will enter the transfer portal and leave, there is just no incentive not to do it.
Disagree. Treat people like Sh#t (to use the term loosely), and they will quit. I don't care if it is McDonald's, Tesla, or the Wyoming Cowboys.
So...If Bohl had done something different...we wouldn't be losing all of these players?...And, for the record, If you are intimating that Bohl treats his players badly...I don't think you have much history of that to go on. I think he made the wrong call on the Williams/Chambers decision but I don't think that is the reason Levi/Neyor are leaving.
Re: What is Bohl's fault and what is not.
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 4:26 pm
by seattlecowboy
Wyoming won’t be able to keep many good players anymore honestly. If they play well they will move on to other schools where they get more publicity and can make money.
Re: What is Bohl's fault and what is not.
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 4:39 pm
by Adv8RU12
seattlecowboy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 4:26 pm
If they play well they will move on to other schools where they get more publicity and can make money.
Won't that be true of all MWC teams? So it will end up that the MWC football will lose all the good players to the premier teams and become more of a low level conference.
Re: What is Bohl's fault and what is not.
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 4:43 pm
by 307bball
Adv8RU12 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 4:39 pm
seattlecowboy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 4:26 pm
If they play well they will move on to other schools where they get more publicity and can make money.
Won't that be true of all MWC teams? So it will end up that the MWC football will lose all the good players to the premier teams and become more of a low level conference.
Generally... Yes. I do think BSU will fare better that the rest of mwc.... Maybe SDSU as well
Re: What is Bohl's fault and what is not.
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 4:56 pm
by CowboyNV
This is a decent article on how the transfer portal is f-word up college football.
https://www.heartlandcollegesports.com/ ... f-control/
Re: What is Bohl's fault and what is not.
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 5:03 pm
by WyoVaquero
Most people mid season knew these transfers were coming. The mishandling of the offense is the reason. Bohls fault completely. Horrible play calling and offensive philosophy. Good luck to these kids. I don’t blame them.
Re: What is Bohl's fault and what is not.
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 5:04 pm
by laxwyo
As I see it, we should be cruising P5 transfers that are looking for playing time. We won’t continue using high school players only
Re: What is Bohl's fault and what is not.
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 5:05 pm
by laxwyo
WyoVaquero wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 5:03 pm
Most people mid season knew these transfers were coming. The mishandling of the offense is the reason. Bohls fault completely. Horrible play calling and offensive philosophy. Good luck to these kids. I don’t blame them.
f-word them
Re: What is Bohl's fault and what is not.
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 5:28 pm
by seattlecowboy
Adv8RU12 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 4:39 pm
seattlecowboy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 4:26 pm
If they play well they will move on to other schools where they get more publicity and can make money.
Won't that be true of all MWC teams? So it will end up that the MWC football will lose all the good players to the premier teams and become more of a low level conference.
Not necessarily. The majority of people think lots of other places are WAY better to live in than Wyoming. Most of the kids Wyoming gets , Wyoming wouldn’t be close to their first choice. So anytime a bigger school comes after them, most will leave. I could see some even leaving for other MWC schools just because the overall living is better than Laramie.
Just the facts. Wyoming will have players leave way more than any other MWC school will.
Re: What is Bohl's fault and what is not.
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 5:53 pm
by 303cowboy
Re: What is Bohl's fault and what is not.
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 6:19 pm
by Adv8RU12
If we're lucky, Bohl will enter the portal. He may be welcome at Northeastern Montana State Normal Indian Teachers College.
Re: What is Bohl's fault and what is not.
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 8:00 pm
by LanderPoke
I am hearing rumors of complete loss of the locker room. Players not responding to Bohl and his tactics anymore. Many wanted to quit mid season
Re: What is Bohl's fault and what is not.
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 8:10 pm
by WyoExpat
seattlecowboy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 4:26 pm
Wyoming won’t be able to keep many good players anymore honestly. If they play well they will move on to other schools where they get more publicity and can make money.
THIS!
Re: What is Bohl's fault and what is not.
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 8:14 pm
by 307bball
LanderPoke wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 8:00 pm
I am hearing rumors of complete loss of the locker room. Players not responding to Bohl and his tactics anymore. Many wanted to quit mid season
Source? I guess anything is possible...I just don't see that kind of body language with this team.
Re: What is Bohl's fault and what is not.
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 8:15 pm
by LanderPoke
307bball wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 8:14 pm
LanderPoke wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 8:00 pm
I am hearing rumors of complete loss of the locker room. Players not responding to Bohl and his tactics anymore. Many wanted to quit mid season
Source? I guess anything is possible...I just don't see that kind of body language with this team.
I have my sources
Re: What is Bohl's fault and what is not.
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 8:21 pm
by HR_Poke
307bball wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 8:14 pm
LanderPoke wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 8:00 pm
I am hearing rumors of complete loss of the locker room. Players not responding to Bohl and his tactics anymore. Many wanted to quit mid season
Source? I guess anything is possible...I just don't see that kind of body language with this team.
It was pretty evident in the NM and Hawaii game.
Re: What is Bohl's fault and what is not.
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 8:26 pm
by LanderPoke
HR_Poke wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 8:21 pm
307bball wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 8:14 pm
LanderPoke wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 8:00 pm
I am hearing rumors of complete loss of the locker room. Players not responding to Bohl and his tactics anymore. Many wanted to quit mid season
Source? I guess anything is possible...I just don't see that kind of body language with this team.
It was pretty evident in the NM and Hawaii game.
I guess there are a crap load of players with eligibility remaining that graduated that will not be back and they made it known, but Bohl still only honored the super seniors at the Hawaii game for senior day. Guess this pissed off a lot of them. Just one example of things that went down l.
Re: What is Bohl's fault and what is not.
Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2021 8:30 pm
by HR_Poke
LanderPoke wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 8:26 pm
HR_Poke wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 8:21 pm
307bball wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 8:14 pm
LanderPoke wrote: ↑Wed Dec 22, 2021 8:00 pm
I am hearing rumors of complete loss of the locker room. Players not responding to Bohl and his tactics anymore. Many wanted to quit mid season
Source? I guess anything is possible...I just don't see that kind of body language with this team.
It was pretty evident in the NM and Hawaii game.
I guess there are a crap load of players with eligibility remaining that graduated that will not be back and they made it known, but Bohl still only honored the super seniors at the Hawaii game for senior day. Guess this pissed off a lot of them. Just one example of things that went down l.
Not surprising after his tantrum about the opt out players last year.