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Re: Who will be back for 23-24
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 9:36 pm
by OrediggerPoke
Something positive - we won’t finish any worse in the MWC standings next year.
Re: Who will be back for 23-24
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2023 11:32 am
by sandiegopoke
Pokes4L wrote: ↑Tue Mar 14, 2023 4:37 pm
Don’t think it’s fair to blame the portal… i think if you find the right kids they will stay. Look at the top programs… not many guys leaving those spots.
I stayed at the same hotel as Arkansas at last year's first and second round and worked out in the gym with Eric Musselman every day. We ended up talking about the portal. He said it's a double edged sword, in that you can look for people you need and couldn't get last year, but you can also provide a way out to people who aren't fitting in to your program. The people you want to keep, you have to re-recruit every year.
Re: Who will be back for 23-24
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 11:00 am
by Itsux2beaewe
SDPokeFan wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 3:51 pm
All this transfer crap makes it really hard to even get interested in the team. You don't know who is going to be on the team from one minute to the next. If Graham leaves this team may not win a game next year.
I’m not sure how to take no news on Ike, regarding transfer. Is it good he hasn’t declared early, or is it better for him to delay, if that’s his intent. I look for news about 3 x’s a day. Not sure how to look at it.
Re: Who will be back for 23-24
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:50 pm
by OrediggerPoke
I’m betting on Ike being back. I’m guessing there is already an NIL deal in place.
Re: Who will be back for 23-24
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 8:29 pm
by Wyovanian
OrediggerPoke wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:50 pm
I’m betting on Ike being back. I’m guessing there is already an NIL deal in place.
Pretty sure, by dint of our deal with Adidas, all of our players get NIL money. Whether or not it's adjustable, I'm not certain...
Re: Who will be back for 23-24
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:48 pm
by OrediggerPoke
Wyovanian wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 8:29 pm
OrediggerPoke wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:50 pm
I’m betting on Ike being back. I’m guessing there is already an NIL deal in place.
Pretty sure, by dint of our deal with Adidas, all of our players get NIL money. Whether or not it's adjustable, I'm not certain...
My guess is Something more substantial not related to adidas.
Re: Who will be back for 23-24
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 11:28 pm
by Itsux2beaewe
OrediggerPoke wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:50 pm
I’m betting on Ike being back. I’m guessing there is already an NIL deal in place.
I saw a post on Facebook where Graham was spending time in a Cheyenne grade school. He stated he was doing crafts and shooting hoops with the kids. I’m encouraged. He spent some time last week at a Boys and Girls club. Making me think he’s here to stay and investing into the Wyoming community.
Re: Who will be back for 23-24
Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2023 5:18 am
by OrediggerPoke
Itsux2beaewe wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 11:28 pm
OrediggerPoke wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 2:50 pm
I’m betting on Ike being back. I’m guessing there is already an NIL deal in place.
I saw a post on Facebook where Graham was spending time in a Cheyenne grade school. He stated he was doing crafts and shooting hoops with the kids. I’m encouraged. He spent some time last week at a Boys and Girls club. Making me think he’s here to stay and investing into the Wyoming community.
Yea - this is a big part of my thinking.
Re: Who will be back for 23-24
Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:35 am
by Itsux2beaewe
OrediggerPoke wrote: ↑Fri Mar 17, 2023 5:18 am
Itsux2beaewe wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 11:28 pm
I saw a post on Facebook where Graham was spending time in a Cheyenne grade school. He stated he was doing crafts and shooting hoops with the kids. I’m encouraged. He spent some time last week at a Boys and Girls club. Making me think he’s here to stay and investing into the Wyoming community.
Yea - this is a big part of my thinking.
Pure class in Graham Ike. That’s the type of kid I want in the B&G. Many of the players are like this, Jeffries (gave a bunch of stuff to my son he signed) had him come down on the court after the Nevada game last year, Wenzel talked with him at a Cowboy football game, Dusell, and Maldo is just a great person. Graham will do a lot for this program off the court, and will likely help recruitment. I hope he has a nice NIL deal.
Re: Who will be back for 23-24
Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:44 am
by LanderPoke
Graham and many of the cowboys seem like really decent people. Good job, men
Re: Who will be back for 23-24
Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2023 5:53 pm
by Itsux2beaewe
I am more optimistic about Ike staying at UW next year, and how much he will help in recruiting players. I really think Linder learned some things about recruitment this year, and think he could really build around Ike, Wenzel, Powell, Dusell, and whoever he recruits………. I’m optimistic about next year. That’s what I said about 22-23, but that was last season.
Re: Who will be back for 23-24
Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 9:36 am
by bladerunnr
If Ike was returning, why doesn't he just say so? I'm guessing he's keeping his options open because he really doesn't stand to benefit by returning to UW. It will take a miracle of miracles for us to be in the top 1/2 of the conference. And with such a weak team around him, he will be double teamed constantly. That won't be good for his stat line.
Re: Who will be back for 23-24
Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 10:42 am
by wyo 1
bladerunnr wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 9:36 am
If Ike was returning, why doesn't he just say so? I'm guessing he's keeping his options open because he really doesn't stand to benefit by returning to UW. It will take a miracle of miracles for us to be in the top 1/2 of the conference. And with such a weak team around him, he will be double teamed constantly. That won't be good for his stat line.
Weak team around him? I didn’t know the roster was full now, who did we pick up?
Linder is the same coach that had the #1 recruiting class in the conference when he first got here, I believe he probably knows who and what he wants again. IMO, it’s way to early to write off next year especially if Ike comes back.
Re: Who will be back for 23-24
Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 11:52 am
by OrediggerPoke
bladerunnr wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 9:36 am
If Ike was returning, why doesn't he just say so? I'm guessing he's keeping his options open because he really doesn't stand to benefit by returning to UW. It will take a miracle of miracles for us to be in the top 1/2 of the conference. And with such a weak team around him, he will be double teamed constantly. That won't be good for his stat line.
Why does an athlete need to declare that they are not leaving?
But I think the NIL deal is done.
Re: Who will be back for 23-24
Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2023 12:21 pm
by WYO1016
OrediggerPoke wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:48 pm
Wyovanian wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 8:29 pm
Pretty sure, by dint of our deal with Adidas, all of our players get NIL money. Whether or not it's adjustable, I'm not certain...
My guess is Something more substantial not related to adidas.
If money was the only factor Graham would have been gone after last season.
Re: Who will be back for 23-24
Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 8:11 am
by bladerunnr
OrediggerPoke wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 11:52 am
bladerunnr wrote: ↑Sat Mar 18, 2023 9:36 am
If Ike was returning, why doesn't he just say so? I'm guessing he's keeping his options open because he really doesn't stand to benefit by returning to UW. It will take a miracle of miracles for us to be in the top 1/2 of the conference. And with such a weak team around him, he will be double teamed constantly. That won't be good for his stat line.
Why does an athlete need to declare that they are not leaving?
But I think the NIL deal is done.
That's a good point, actually. No, he doesn't have to say anything. For some inexplicable reason, I thought he would reveal his decision on social media.
Re: Who will be back for 23-24
Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:25 pm
by WyoExpat
OrediggerPoke wrote: ↑Fri Mar 17, 2023 5:18 am
Itsux2beaewe wrote: ↑Thu Mar 16, 2023 11:28 pm
I saw a post on Facebook where Graham was spending time in a Cheyenne grade school. He stated he was doing crafts and shooting hoops with the kids. I’m encouraged. He spent some time last week at a Boys and Girls club. Making me think he’s here to stay and investing into the Wyoming community.
Yea - this is a big part of my thinking.
I am pretty much thinking the same thing. My sense is that he is all-in on Coach Linder and seems to be cut from similar mental cloth as Hunter Moldenado. Besides, Laramie is a short drive for his family from his home in metro Denver.
Did anyone notice that Wentzel is staying, and it was his dad that spoke up for Coach after the midsection exodus, even though Coach has reportedly been particularly hard on Wentzel? There will eventually be a sort for players who fit.
My guess is that we are only really losing two players to the Portal who would have stayed in a bygone era. I'm also sure that kids who aren't pro-bound will eventually see the risk of the Portal and be more likely to stick around.
Re: Who will be back for 23-24
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 6:53 am
by OrediggerPoke
WyoExpat wrote: ↑Sun Mar 19, 2023 5:25 pm
OrediggerPoke wrote: ↑Fri Mar 17, 2023 5:18 am
Yea - this is a big part of my thinking.
I am pretty much thinking the same thing. My sense is that he is all-in on Coach Linder and seems to be cut from similar mental cloth as Hunter Moldenado. Besides, Laramie is a short drive for his family from his home in metro Denver.
Did anyone notice that Wentzel is staying, and it was his dad that spoke up for Coach after the midsection exodus, even though Coach has reportedly been particularly hard on Wentzel? There will eventually be a sort for players who fit.
My guess is that we are only really losing two players to the Portal who would have stayed in a bygone era. I'm also sure that kids who aren't pro-bound will eventually see the risk of the Portal and be more likely to stick around.
In fairness, Wenzel has already used the transfer portal and he would most likely have to sit out a year if he were to transfer again. But I do think he has the right attitude.
Re: Who will be back for 23-24
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 2:03 pm
by OrediggerPoke
307bball wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 10:16 pm
If the Wyoming basketball team had zero returning players next year... Would we be worse?
We might find out...
Re: Who will be back for 23-24
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 2:13 pm
by SDPokeFan
OrediggerPoke wrote: ↑Mon Mar 20, 2023 2:03 pm
307bball wrote: ↑Sat Mar 11, 2023 10:16 pm
If the Wyoming basketball team had zero returning players next year... Would we be worse?
We might find out...
No kidding. We are about four players from starting over entirely. Might as well be a JUCO if we're going to have an entirely new team every year.
