Chris Tormey might bring a stud LB and a D tackle with size.

Tue Dec 27, 2011 12:09 pm

http://www.cowboyaltitude.com/2011/12/2 ... #storyjump

Tue Dec 27, 2011 12:15 pm

I just watched the video on these guys. I must say I'm impressed. How Olive has slipped to Portland State is beyond me. He gets great penetration and has excellent speed for an interior lineman. With a year or two with Greener he could be an all-conference type of guy.

Tue Dec 27, 2011 6:59 pm

they both look like guys I'd be okay with having in a Cowboys Uni! That big boy has a motor!

Wed Dec 28, 2011 10:23 am

Chris who? Not impressed.

Just say no. This talk is rediculous. Nobody, not even Buddy Ryan "God" himself, could have done a better job on D with the cards he was dealt than Marty English did the last few seasons.

Wed Dec 28, 2011 10:47 am

McPeachy wrote:Chris who? Not impressed.

Just say no. This talk is rediculous. Nobody, not even Buddy Ryan "God" himself, could have done a better job on D with the cards he was dealt than Marty English did the last few seasons.

I've been down on Marty too plenty this season. I guess it's all of us looking for something that we can't change. We don't have a great DL. We have a few good guys, but we need run stopping pigs in there. Marty can't do anything on D if you don't have a good DL. A good DL lets you blitz more and run different schemes. We were just trying to stop the bleeding from the run game.

You look at the great defenses and they stop the run with the DL and their DEs get sacks on pass plays. If we had a true NG, I would prefer the 3-4, but we don't so the point is mute. the 3-4 allows you to bring that 4th guy from anywhere instead of just having the 4th guy on the line all the time, but you must have a Casey Hampton type dude in there. It's all the DL. Even the LB's aren't as important. Look at the Steelers, they have pro-bowl LB's all the time and when they leave the team, they stink. It's because the DL allowed them to be good LB's.

I agree that Marty isn't the biggest problem on D. I do think we can do better. I don't understand why we started with a newbie coach, a newbie DC, a newbie OC the first year. We need veteran OC (now we have brandon) and a veteran DC, not a LB coach.

Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:10 am

McPeachy wrote:Chris who? Not impressed.

Just say no. This talk is rediculous. Nobody, not even Buddy Ryan "God" himself, could have done a better job on D with the cards he was dealt than Marty English did the last few seasons.

Whoops. Guess I was wrong...and DC feels differently.

Wed Dec 28, 2011 4:03 pm

I like Marty, know the guy and don't think this can all be blamed on him.....but i do think those 2 prospects could be big.

Sun Jan 01, 2012 10:41 am

yeah, I think they both would look good in brown and gold next year. O LEEEE VAY would be fun to yell after a big play. Pulu looks like a straight up beast. These guys with Yarbrough, Puletasi, Nzeochas, Burns, could help us right away but down the road we could have a scary good defense in a few years. That would be a lot of studs that are Freshmen or Sophomores on defense next year.