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Re: wyo vs hawaii

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:12 pm
by Wyokie
YankPoke wrote:I never said I stand by the administration at all, I am just simply stating you should be rooting for Wyoming to win every game and get to bowl games, not hoping they will lose. I am with everyone else on this board, I hate losing more than probably anything in the world, and I want Burman and DC fired immediately. I just find it disgusting that people want us to lose games instead of always cheering for Wyoming to win.
What Doc is saying is this....we need to lose and lose badly to force a lot of changes to happen. Otherwise, 2014 will be a repeat, only worse, of this year. Because if we go bowling...Stenberg can't fire Burman plus CDC will stay another year to where Brett Smith just might get worse. You want that to happen?!

We need changes at UW and we need it NOW!!!!! Otherwise....things WILL get much worse!!!!

Re: wyo vs hawaii

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:13 pm
by DocHolliday
YankPoke wrote:I never said I stand by the administration at all, I am just simply stating you should be rooting for Wyoming to win every game and get to bowl games, not hoping they will lose. I am with everyone else on this board, I hate losing more than probably anything in the world, and I want Burman and DC fired immediately. I just find it disgusting that people want us to lose games instead of always cheering for Wyoming to win.
I'm done with this thread.

The stupidity of the responses lacks sound reasoning worthy of my continued inclusion.

Good night.

Re: wyo vs hawaii

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:13 pm
by DocHolliday
Wyokie wrote:
YankPoke wrote:I never said I stand by the administration at all, I am just simply stating you should be rooting for Wyoming to win every game and get to bowl games, not hoping they will lose. I am with everyone else on this board, I hate losing more than probably anything in the world, and I want Burman and DC fired immediately. I just find it disgusting that people want us to lose games instead of always cheering for Wyoming to win.
What Doc is saying is this....we need to lose and lose badly to force a lot of changes to happen. Otherwise, 2014 will be a repeat, only worse, of this year. Because if we go bowling...Stenberg can't fire Burman plus CDC will stay another year to where Brett Smith just might get worse. You want that to happen?!

We need changes at UW and we need it NOW!!!!! Otherwise....things WILL get much worse!!!!
An intelligent man.

Re: wyo vs hawaii

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:14 pm
by J-Rod
Lots of arguing, all for not.......no reason to expect Wyoming to go to a bowl at this point. Boise and Utah St. games could get nasty. Pokes would have to pull off a BIG upset to go to a bowl game.

Re: wyo vs hawaii

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:16 pm
by YankPoke
DocHolliday wrote:
YankPoke wrote:I never said I stand by the administration at all, I am just simply stating you should be rooting for Wyoming to win every game and get to bowl games, not hoping they will lose. I am with everyone else on this board, I hate losing more than probably anything in the world, and I want Burman and DC fired immediately. I just find it disgusting that people want us to lose games instead of always cheering for Wyoming to win.
I'm done with this thread.

The stupidity of the responses lacks sound reasoning worthy of my continued inclusion.

Good night.
I didn't know cheering for your team to win was stupidity. I don't care if you hate DC or Burman, or both, but you should never be not rooting for Wyoming to win. We all want DC and Burman fired, but I won't root against my team to see that happen.

Re: wyo vs hawaii

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:17 pm
by MrTitleist
You guys should read Death to the BCS by Dan Wetzel. Great book that pretty much shines a huge light on how awful bowls are.

Re: wyo vs hawaii

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:19 pm
by YankPoke
MrTitleist wrote:You guys should read Death to the BCS by Dan Wetzel. Great book that pretty much shines a huge light on how awful bowls are.
No argument here, bowl games are a joke and there are way too many of them. You should at least have to be 7-5 minimum to make a bowl not this 6-6 bull. There should be a 16 team playoff exactly like FCS and get rid of bowls entirely.

Re: wyo vs hawaii

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:21 pm
by Wyokie
DocHolliday wrote:
Wyokie wrote:
YankPoke wrote:I never said I stand by the administration at all, I am just simply stating you should be rooting for Wyoming to win every game and get to bowl games, not hoping they will lose. I am with everyone else on this board, I hate losing more than probably anything in the world, and I want Burman and DC fired immediately. I just find it disgusting that people want us to lose games instead of always cheering for Wyoming to win.
What Doc is saying is this....we need to lose and lose badly to force a lot of changes to happen. Otherwise, 2014 will be a repeat, only worse, of this year. Because if we go bowling...Stenberg can't fire Burman plus CDC will stay another year to where Brett Smith just might get worse. You want that to happen?!

We need changes at UW and we need it NOW!!!!! Otherwise....things WILL get much worse!!!!
An intelligent man.
Thank you, sir!

Re: wyo vs hawaii

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:22 pm
by BackHarlowRoad
Yes, losing would bring about change more quickly. I completely see the reasoning behind that logic.

But to cheer for your team to lose? No. Give up on the seniors that gave us 4-5 years of their life so that we, as fans, get what we want? No.

I'm not that selfish. Yank's not that selfish. We sure as poop aren't stupid for not wanting to lose ON PURPOSE.

Re: wyo vs hawaii

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:24 pm
by YankPoke
BackHarlowRoad wrote:Yes, losing would bring about change more quickly. I completely see the reasoning behind that logic.

But to cheer for your team to lose? No. Give up on the seniors that gave us 4-5 years of their life so that we, as fans, get what we want? No.

I'm not that selfish. Yank's not that selfish. We sure as poop aren't stupid for not wanting to lose ON PURPOSE.
Thank you +1000

Re: wyo vs hawaii

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:32 pm
by BackHarlowRoad
Says a lot about someone's character to try to take away something from 18-23 yr old kids just to soothe their own injured pride.

It ain't about you.

Re: wyo vs hawaii

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:32 pm
by Wyokie
I agree with wanting to see Wyoming win but losing these last 2-3 games may be the ONLY way to save the football program.

Re: wyo vs hawaii

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:42 pm
by Pokes Forever
BackHarlowRoad wrote:Says a lot about someone's character to try to take away something from 18-23 yr old kids just to soothe their own injured pride.

It ain't about you.
Tell that to the guy that has put those kids into that situation through poor coaching decisions and the inability to make adjustments that will allow those kids the opportunity to win. Nobody wants Wyoming to lose but seriously have you not watched this team?

Re: wyo vs hawaii

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:47 pm
by BeaverPoke
YankPoke wrote:I never said I stand by the administration at all, I am just simply stating you should be rooting for Wyoming to win every game and get to bowl games, not hoping they will lose. I am with everyone else on this board, I hate losing more than probably anything in the world, and I want Burman and DC fired immediately. I just find it disgusting that people want us to lose games instead of always cheering for Wyoming to win.
Exactly how I feel.

But no Doc has to cheer for a 4-8 season.
I want the bowl win, and Burman fired anyways.

But nope, we have to be awful.

Re: wyo vs hawaii

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 8:52 pm
by BackHarlowRoad
Pokes Forever wrote:Nobody wants Wyoming to lose but seriously have you not watched this team?
I have watched this team, which is why I think you shouldn't have to be too worried about getting those 2-3 more losses you're wanting.

Have you bought your Boise blue and Hawai'i green yet?

Re: wyo vs hawaii

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:00 pm
by Pokes Forever
BackHarlowRoad wrote:
Pokes Forever wrote:Nobody wants Wyoming to lose but seriously have you not watched this team?
I have watched this team, which is why I think you shouldn't have to be too worried about getting those 2-3 more losses you're wanting.

Have you bought your Boise blue and Hawai'i green yet?
I'm not hoping for those loses....just being realistic and actually comprehending what people are posting....you should try it! Don't know anything about Boise blue or Hawaii green as there is noon formation about that printed on my season tickets

Re: wyo vs hawaii

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:01 pm
by BeaverPoke
Pokes Forever wrote:
BackHarlowRoad wrote:
Pokes Forever wrote:Nobody wants Wyoming to lose but seriously have you not watched this team?
I have watched this team, which is why I think you shouldn't have to be too worried about getting those 2-3 more losses you're wanting.

Have you bought your Boise blue and Hawai'i green yet?
I'm not hoping for those loses....just being realistic and actually comprehending what people are posting....you should try it! Don't know anything about Boise blue or Hawaii green as there is noon formation about that printed on my season tickets
Whether people have watched the team or not you should still cheer for them to win!
If they lose against Boise or not you should still cheer for them to beat Hawaii and Utah State.
If they get into a bowl game you should still cheer for them to win.

Re: wyo vs hawaii

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:04 pm
by BackHarlowRoad
I fully understand what people are posting, I said that earlier in the thread. The logic is sound, the principle of it is not.

Re: wyo vs hawaii

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:09 pm
by MrTitleist
YankPoke wrote:No argument here, bowl games are a joke and there are way too many of them. You should at least have to be 7-5 minimum to make a bowl not this 6-6 bull. There should be a 16 team playoff exactly like FCS and get rid of bowls entirely.
FCS is a 24 team playoff field starting this year. Even FCS is starting to reward mediocrity.

Re: wyo vs hawaii

Posted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:36 pm
by YankPoke
MrTitleist wrote:
YankPoke wrote:No argument here, bowl games are a joke and there are way too many of them. You should at least have to be 7-5 minimum to make a bowl not this 6-6 bull. There should be a 16 team playoff exactly like FCS and get rid of bowls entirely.
FCS is a 24 team playoff field starting this year. Even FCS is starting to reward mediocrity.
Did not hear about that. I always thought 16 was the perfect number for football.