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by ragtimejoe1
Tue May 28, 2024 4:42 pm
Forum: Cowboy and MWC Football
Topic: Off-season: collective bargaining
Replies: 62
Views: 1923

Re: Off-season: collective bargaining

Only problem is there will be no or very little revenue from tv or whatever the new ncaa would be. P5 is responsible for the majority of the liability but also the revenue. The advantage (or disadvantage) would be personal preference but not financial. The NCAA does not currently market the MWC’s m...
by ragtimejoe1
Tue May 28, 2024 4:31 pm
Forum: Cowboy and MWC Football
Topic: Off-season: collective bargaining
Replies: 62
Views: 1923

Re: Off-season: collective bargaining

How is bankrupting the ncaa better financially for the 300? It’s a fresh start. The 300 can form or become part of their own associations and create their own tournaments. The split will happen regardless. This is just a way to speed up that process and get back to relatively amateur athletics. Onl...
by ragtimejoe1
Tue May 28, 2024 4:18 pm
Forum: Cowboy and MWC Football
Topic: Off-season: collective bargaining
Replies: 62
Views: 1923

Re: Off-season: collective bargaining

Fundamental bankruptcy law. 11 USC 547. A bankruptcy court can claw back NCAA distributions to conferences for a period of 1 year prior to the filing of the case. The 60% you are upset about is coming from reduced payments from the ncaa to the schools which is somewhere between 1 and what 30% of th...
by ragtimejoe1
Tue May 28, 2024 4:16 pm
Forum: Cowboy and MWC Football
Topic: Off-season: collective bargaining
Replies: 62
Views: 1923

Re: Off-season: collective bargaining

Perhaps but they helped create the platform and situation which created the value in NIL. Lukely similar arguments as suing manufacturers even though individuals used product in unlawful or dangerous manner. The only reason it surprises me is because I hold that low of opinion of lawyers. What does...
by ragtimejoe1
Tue May 28, 2024 4:07 pm
Forum: Cowboy and MWC Football
Topic: Off-season: collective bargaining
Replies: 62
Views: 1923

Re: Off-season: collective bargaining

I'm surprised they didn't name espn, fox, etc. Why aren't they paying? That’s about as easy as a question as it gets. The players have no claims against those parties. There are no allegations that ESPN colluded with the NCAA to craft rules that prevented the players from receiving endorsement doll...
by ragtimejoe1
Tue May 28, 2024 4:03 pm
Forum: Cowboy and MWC Football
Topic: Gap between fcs and g5 might narrow
Replies: 0
Views: 49

Gap between fcs and g5 might narrow

Removing the scholarship limit may eliminate any competitive advantage between fcs and g5 depending on how schools choose to focus their efforts and resources.
by ragtimejoe1
Tue May 28, 2024 4:00 pm
Forum: Cowboy and MWC Football
Topic: Off-season: collective bargaining
Replies: 62
Views: 1923

Re: Off-season: collective bargaining

Who said I'm taking sides? Maybe they can supeona current nil collectives and base %s off of that? I'm surprised they didn't name espn, fox, etc. Why aren't they paying? All I'm saying is 68 schools are paying 40% of 60% and 300 schools are paying 60% of 60%. I'm not sure how you divvy up a liabili...
by ragtimejoe1
Tue May 28, 2024 3:59 pm
Forum: Cowboy and MWC Football
Topic: Off-season: collective bargaining
Replies: 62
Views: 1923

Re: Off-season: collective bargaining

Can all non-p5 d1 schools say we won't pay anything and the ncaa is simply bankrupt with no further implications to non-p5 schools (since they weren't specifically named in lawsuit other than ncaa)? I have no idea. Fundamental bankruptcy law. 11 USC 547. A bankruptcy court can claw back NCAA distri...
by ragtimejoe1
Tue May 28, 2024 3:56 pm
Forum: Cowboy and MWC Football
Topic: Off-season: collective bargaining
Replies: 62
Views: 1923

Re: Off-season: collective bargaining

Likely, but nobody knows how big those differences will be especially with title ix considerations. It doesn’t take much of an expert to recognize that the differences are much larger than the 40/60 the P4 is trying to force down the throat of the little guy. Do you believe it is a coincidence that...
by ragtimejoe1
Tue May 28, 2024 3:38 pm
Forum: Cowboy and MWC Football
Topic: Off-season: collective bargaining
Replies: 62
Views: 1923

Re: Off-season: collective bargaining

It's 14,000 athletes since 2016. What percentage are p5 vs g5 and is the payment structure different depending on the athlete's sport or conference he/she participated in? Yes - I can almost guarantee the plaintiff class members will require a structure based on conference affiliation and sport. No...
by ragtimejoe1
Tue May 28, 2024 3:36 pm
Forum: Cowboy and MWC Football
Topic: Off-season: collective bargaining
Replies: 62
Views: 1923

Re: Off-season: collective bargaining

Not all the 300 schools you reference are even Division 1. Compared to most of them Wyoming is a big time athletic programs. Do you think someone like Farmingdale State or Wisconsin- Lutheran or even Chadron State will be able to pay that kind of money? Any way I look at it it is bad deal for schoo...
by ragtimejoe1
Tue May 28, 2024 3:09 pm
Forum: Cowboy and MWC Football
Topic: Off-season: collective bargaining
Replies: 62
Views: 1923

Re: Off-season: collective bargaining

Basically the only Wyoming player who might be entitled to real money in damages for lost NIL revenues is Josh Allen. No one else-Hill, Wilson, Muma etc, would get much in the way of damages. Compare that to someone like Joe Burrow, Zion Williamson, Trevor Lawrence, Baker Mayfield etc. from P4 conf...
by ragtimejoe1
Tue May 28, 2024 2:39 pm
Forum: Cowboy and MWC Football
Topic: Off-season: collective bargaining
Replies: 62
Views: 1923

Re: Off-season: collective bargaining

Are you suggesting that only players who played at a p5 school be eligible to recieve past damages or that those athletes recieve more than those that played at g5? I don't think the settlement differentiated. 300 schools have way more past athletes than 68 schools. I am suggesting that P5 players ...
by ragtimejoe1
Tue May 28, 2024 1:11 pm
Forum: Cowboy and MWC Football
Topic: Off-season: collective bargaining
Replies: 62
Views: 1923

Re: Off-season: collective bargaining

"The proposed settlement is for $2.7 billion in damages from 2016-present but the P5 to only cover 40% of that amount" That is exactly the point. The money is to repay past damages to players who were not able to receive NIL income. Currently P4 schools are paying significantly more for N...
by ragtimejoe1
Sat May 25, 2024 7:34 am
Forum: Cowboy and MWC Football
Topic: Off-season: collective bargaining
Replies: 62
Views: 1923

Re: Off-season: collective bargaining

For the lawsuit, we paid more as a percentage but waaay less total dollars than p4. Huh? I’m not following what you’re saying. The proposed settlement is for $2.7 billion in damages from 2016-present but the P5 to only cover 40% of that amount. It equates to more liability per school in the P5 but ...
by ragtimejoe1
Fri May 24, 2024 8:27 pm
Forum: Cowboy and MWC Football
Topic: Off-season: collective bargaining
Replies: 62
Views: 1923

Re: Off-season: collective bargaining

It is a terrible deal for the non-P4 conferences. They get hit with 60% of the damages even though realistically the vast majority of the damages are owed to players for the P4 conferences I am less than informed on how TV money gets currently split but I assume the vast majority of the TV/media re...
by ragtimejoe1
Fri May 24, 2024 11:41 am
Forum: Cowboy and MWC Football
Topic: Off-season: collective bargaining
Replies: 62
Views: 1923

Re: Off-season: collective bargaining

So if I’m understanding your post, the P5 get revenue sharing of $20 million each school and the G5s FCS shoulder the burden? The damage claims in the lawsuits generally seek antitrust damages for the years of 2016-present asserting that the NCAA’s and conferences’ conduct restricted the players ma...
by ragtimejoe1
Thu May 23, 2024 7:57 am
Forum: Cowboy and MWC Football
Topic: Off-season: collective bargaining
Replies: 62
Views: 1923

Re: Off-season: collective bargaining

Whoa. Revenue sharing and unlimited scholarships!? Why is the scholarship limit on the chopping block? https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/college-athletes-on-brink-of-getting-2-8-billion-revenue-sharing-model-in-house-v-ncaa-settlement/ What good does a scholarship limit have in an env...
by ragtimejoe1
Wed May 22, 2024 9:14 pm
Forum: Cowboy and MWC Football
Topic: Off-season: collective bargaining
Replies: 62
Views: 1923

Re: Off-season: collective bargaining

Whoa. Revenue sharing and unlimited scholarships!? Why is the scholarship limit on the chopping block?

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footb ... ettlement/
by ragtimejoe1
Wed May 22, 2024 3:41 pm
Forum: Wyoming Basketball, Wrestling, etc
Topic: Linder leaving
Replies: 79
Views: 4791

Re: Linder leaving

I'm no Burman defender, lol, but this might simply be the least bad option he was facing. When a divorce is imminent, moving on as quickly as possible is best. It's possible Tech didn't want Linder bad enough to spend any more. If Burman stands his ground, Linder is a bad and now jaded coach roamin...