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by 307bball
Fri Feb 16, 2024 4:35 pm
Forum: Cowboy and MWC Football
Topic: Craig Bohl's Legacy
Replies: 86
Views: 4734

Re: Craig Bohl's Legacy

hehe...excellent characterisation of most of the discussions on here :P. The change to the division format may have some effect...though it should go against the teams that had to play BSU every year.... Anyways...again...I'm trying not to make a sweeping conclusion except to say that Boh'ls succes...
by 307bball
Fri Feb 16, 2024 4:05 pm
Forum: Cowboy and MWC Football
Topic: Craig Bohl's Legacy
Replies: 86
Views: 4734

Re: Craig Bohl's Legacy

Looks like I missed some stuff with the number of conference games too. But honestly, there’s still so many changing variables that I don’t think affected all teams equally, especially in Bohls tenure. Divisions, no divisions, teams not playing the same suite of teams as those teams they are being ...
by 307bball
Fri Feb 16, 2024 4:00 pm
Forum: Cowboy and MWC Football
Topic: Craig Bohl's Legacy
Replies: 86
Views: 4734

Re: Craig Bohl's Legacy

Got bored, and got started looking at the total percentage of our conference win's that came against AF, CSU, NM, SDSU, and UNLV from 03 to 23. Learned a few things, but that’s it. Lots of confounding things I would have to think about a lot more to draw any conclusions. Thought it would be simple....
by 307bball
Fri Feb 16, 2024 3:41 pm
Forum: Cowboy and MWC Football
Topic: Craig Bohl's Legacy
Replies: 86
Views: 4734

Re: Craig Bohl's Legacy

Got bored, and got started looking at the total percentage of our conference win's that came against AF, CSU, NM, SDSU, and UNLV from 03 to 23. Learned a few things, but that’s it. Lots of confounding things I would have to think about a lot more to draw any conclusions. Thought it would be simple....
by 307bball
Fri Feb 16, 2024 3:02 pm
Forum: Cowboy and MWC Football
Topic: Craig Bohl's Legacy
Replies: 86
Views: 4734

Re: Craig Bohl's Legacy

If you want to make that claim, you are free to do so. My previous response stands. I'm just trying to follow your logic? Your analysis applied to dc would mean he's 1 of the better coaches. The context of my "logic" applies within it's context. Not outside of it. I tried to explain where...
by 307bball
Fri Feb 16, 2024 1:24 pm
Forum: Cowboy and MWC Football
Topic: Craig Bohl's Legacy
Replies: 86
Views: 4734

Re: Craig Bohl's Legacy

I what to be careful so I don't get misunderstood. Your question is (paraphrased), "was DC a good coach?".... If my options are yes/no then I would say no. It would be a misunderstanding to think I'm saying he's terrible though. The back and forth that we have had previously does not exte...
by 307bball
Fri Feb 16, 2024 12:42 pm
Forum: Cowboy and MWC Football
Topic: Craig Bohl's Legacy
Replies: 86
Views: 4734

Re: Craig Bohl's Legacy

So, 307, then dc was a good coach? Analyzing conference wins fire first 5 years, he's similar to Bohl. I what to be careful so I don't get misunderstood. Your question is (paraphrased), "was DC a good coach?".... If my options are yes/no then I would say no. It would be a misunderstanding...
by 307bball
Fri Feb 16, 2024 12:02 pm
Forum: Cowboy and MWC Football
Topic: Craig Bohl's Legacy
Replies: 86
Views: 4734

Re: Craig Bohl's Legacy

307, I can’t follow your logic past this point. You keep going back to this idea “If the jump in conference wins per year were due, in the main, to a weaker conference.... All or most of the teams in common from both eras would have experienced an increase in conference wins similar to what Wyoming...
by 307bball
Thu Feb 15, 2024 4:15 pm
Forum: Cowboy and MWC Football
Topic: Craig Bohl's Legacy
Replies: 86
Views: 4734

Re: Craig Bohl's Legacy

I apologize for being pedantic...but saying Bohl "kept" us out of the cellar implies that we were not in it when he took over...I would definitely call the team that had won the second least conference games (one more victory than UNLV) over the previous three coaches tenure, a cellar-dwe...
by 307bball
Thu Feb 15, 2024 2:25 pm
Forum: Cowboy and MWC Football
Topic: Craig Bohl's Legacy
Replies: 86
Views: 4734

Re: Craig Bohl's Legacy

*sigh*...do you just not see the text that I write when I observe that the conference strength has slipped? I accept that it's not irrational to think that playing somewhat worse teams in conference should contribute to more wins in conference. Do I need to write that twice? here goes...maybe it wi...
by 307bball
Thu Feb 15, 2024 11:07 am
Forum: Cowboy and MWC Football
Topic: Craig Bohl's Legacy
Replies: 86
Views: 4734

Re: Craig Bohl's Legacy

I've looked at the conference strength stuff just like everybody else...I'm a Wyoming football fan that cares about that stuff. The difference in conferences between The first 12-15 years of this century and since then, is that the six teams that are still in the conference from the earlier time pe...
by 307bball
Thu Feb 15, 2024 10:30 am
Forum: Cowboy and MWC Football
Topic: What do you guys think of Burman?
Replies: 15
Views: 1484

Re: What do you guys think of Burman?

I don't think the people that rated him higher are looking to the AD to deliver conference championships. I did not rate him that high but I also don't look to him to deliver titles. I've long believed that the function of a collegiate AD has more to do with high attendance in revenue sports and ut...
by 307bball
Thu Feb 15, 2024 9:10 am
Forum: Cowboy and MWC Football
Topic: Craig Bohl's Legacy
Replies: 86
Views: 4734

Re: Craig Bohl's Legacy

I'm not saying Bohl was a bad coach. He was good enough to keep us from being a dumpster other than 2 years. He was good enough to keep us able to beat dumpster fire teams and some mediocre teams most years. In these years, strength of opponent really mattered. He also had a couple good years where...
by 307bball
Thu Feb 15, 2024 8:01 am
Forum: Cowboy and MWC Football
Topic: Craig Bohl's Legacy
Replies: 86
Views: 4734

Re: Craig Bohl's Legacy

When I get time I'll show you why your analysis is wrong. Some of the crappy teams we beat each year aren't the same every year. Csu fell off the map since Sonny. Yes, other than 2 years Bohl kept us from being a bad team. I've already said that. However, in a dog$hit conference you can count on se...
by 307bball
Wed Feb 14, 2024 10:22 pm
Forum: Cowboy and MWC Football
Topic: Craig Bohl's Legacy
Replies: 86
Views: 4734

Re: Craig Bohl's Legacy

Conference win totals since '16 (Original MWC members in bold): BSU 53 SDSU 39 4.88 wins/year AFA 37 4.63 wins/year FRES 36 USU 34 WYO 33 4.13 wins/year NEV 28 HAW 27 SJSU 24 CSU 24 3 wins/year UNLV 22 2.75 wins/year UNM 13 1.63 wins/year From 2000 through 2015...those same six members: AFA 64 4 wi...
by 307bball
Wed Feb 14, 2024 5:32 pm
Forum: Cowboy and MWC Football
Topic: Craig Bohl's Legacy
Replies: 86
Views: 4734

Re: Craig Bohl's Legacy

I don't know the "right" way to look at those to periods of time but focusing on SOS seems to be a version of trying to answer the question "who would win head to head?". Once you are separated by a generation...it's very hard to compare apples and apples. The need to remind eve...
by 307bball
Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:08 pm
Forum: Wyoming Basketball, Wrestling, etc
Topic: Attendance
Replies: 47
Views: 5065

Re: Attendance

Great example....they went 11-4 at home this year. What if they had gone 4-11? Probably still would have been a decent turnout. But I’m still not following - Wyoming is 8-2 at home this year in Men’s basketball. The problem isn’t inability to win home games, it is zero effort to get students there ...
by 307bball
Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:34 pm
Forum: Cowboy and MWC Football
Topic: Craig Bohl's Legacy
Replies: 86
Views: 4734

Re: Craig Bohl's Legacy

Agreed that the early 2000's MWC was a vastly tougher conference. But those teams could hardly manage to get the right number of players on the field sometimes. And they didn't win OOC either, and had elegibility issues. Boh's tenure has been nothing like it. I'm not talking Bohl's tenure just that...
by 307bball
Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:47 pm
Forum: Cowboy and MWC Football
Topic: Craig Bohl's Legacy
Replies: 86
Views: 4734

Re: Craig Bohl's Legacy

1-21 in conference over those years. How quickly folks forget I guess. Bad teams also. Bohl's are right up there against worse competition. Everybody always debates the best.... Now we can argue over who is the worst! For my money...there just is no excuse in the conference that Wyoming is in to wi...
by 307bball
Tue Feb 13, 2024 1:30 pm
Forum: Cowboy and MWC Football
Topic: Craig Bohl's Legacy
Replies: 86
Views: 4734

Re: Craig Bohl's Legacy

Is the purpose of this poll to show everyone that our fanbase is satisfied with being very average? :whistle: Just trying to get a sense of what people think of Bohl. It's hitting about where I expected it would. He's a highly respected coach that was a great cultural fit for Wyoming...even if he n...