Re: Granderson in trouble
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:09 pm
The power of trying to get the P, smh
Honestly I'm not saying this just because its Carl but it really looks as if these girls were trying to set him up. The whole text thing screams premeditated to me. That and what the hell else is a 22 year old man going to think when 2 girls come to stay the night?
You have to be kidding me! Who knows the relationship between Granderson and the girls but you are saying that sleeping in the same bed as someone is automatically an invitation to be groped? Thats F******* ridiculous!bladerunnr wrote: ↑Mon Feb 11, 2019 6:05 pm If that's all he did, the charges are ridiculous. Here's a thought: Hey girls, if you don't want to get groped, don't sleep in the same bed as a male.
Another poster who really has no clue. Yes, that's what I'm saying. If you, (a college age female) sleeps in the same bed as a college age male, there's a very good chance his hands may wander during the night. What a surprise! It may have been an accident. What people do while they are unconscious or semi conscious is hardly predictable. What if one of them groped him? Do you think he would have pressed charges? Unlikely. Incredible waste of taxpayer money.OrediggerPoke wrote: ↑Mon Feb 11, 2019 6:23 pmYou have to be kidding me! Who knows the relationship between Granderson and the girls but you are saying that sleeping in the same bed as someone is automatically an invitation to be groped? Thats F******* ridiculous!bladerunnr wrote: ↑Mon Feb 11, 2019 6:05 pm If that's all he did, the charges are ridiculous. Here's a thought: Hey girls, if you don't want to get groped, don't sleep in the same bed as a male.
I can think of multiple times during college (and some thereafter) where I ended up sleeping in the same bed as some female that I wasn't in any sort of relationship with because the person(s) was merely being responsible and didn't want to drive home drunk and didn't want to sleep on the floor either. That didn't give any rights to grope the other person.
Wait - you're saying the person has no clue because wandering hands happen? The described situation in that article is not an accident.bladerunnr wrote: ↑Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:15 pmAnother poster who really has no clue. Yes, that's what I'm saying. If you, (a college age female) sleeps in the same bed as a college age male, there's a very good chance his hands may wander during the night. What a surprise! It may have been an accident. What people do while they are unconscious or semi conscious is hardly predictable. What if one of them groped him? Do you think he would have pressed charges? Unlikely. Incredible waste of taxpayer money.OrediggerPoke wrote: ↑Mon Feb 11, 2019 6:23 pmYou have to be kidding me! Who knows the relationship between Granderson and the girls but you are saying that sleeping in the same bed as someone is automatically an invitation to be groped? Thats F******* ridiculous!bladerunnr wrote: ↑Mon Feb 11, 2019 6:05 pm If that's all he did, the charges are ridiculous. Here's a thought: Hey girls, if you don't want to get groped, don't sleep in the same bed as a male.
I can think of multiple times during college (and some thereafter) where I ended up sleeping in the same bed as some female that I wasn't in any sort of relationship with because the person(s) was merely being responsible and didn't want to drive home drunk and didn't want to sleep on the floor either. That didn't give any rights to grope the other person.
Unbelievable that this belief exists. I’ll leave it at that.bladerunnr wrote: ↑Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:15 pmAnother poster who really has no clue. Yes, that's what I'm saying. If you, (a college age female) sleeps in the same bed as a college age male, there's a very good chance his hands may wander during the night. What a surprise! It may have been an accident. What people do while they are unconscious or semi conscious is hardly predictable. What if one of them groped him? Do you think he would have pressed charges? Unlikely. Incredible waste of taxpayer money.OrediggerPoke wrote: ↑Mon Feb 11, 2019 6:23 pmYou have to be kidding me! Who knows the relationship between Granderson and the girls but you are saying that sleeping in the same bed as someone is automatically an invitation to be groped? Thats F******* ridiculous!bladerunnr wrote: ↑Mon Feb 11, 2019 6:05 pm If that's all he did, the charges are ridiculous. Here's a thought: Hey girls, if you don't want to get groped, don't sleep in the same bed as a male.
I can think of multiple times during college (and some thereafter) where I ended up sleeping in the same bed as some female that I wasn't in any sort of relationship with because the person(s) was merely being responsible and didn't want to drive home drunk and didn't want to sleep on the floor either. That didn't give any rights to grope the other person.
If you want to put it in those terms, I wouldn't get into bed with a guy who I knew was gay. I'm not saying he's blameless (if it's true). But for a female to sleep in the same bed as a the deed male is just asking for trouble. From a legal standpoint, where's the proof? The other female apparently didn't know what happened. There's no physical evidence. Are you one of those who believe every female accusation? How progressive of you!Asmodeanreborn wrote: ↑Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:05 pmWait - you're saying the person has no clue because wandering hands happen? The described situation in that article is not an accident.bladerunnr wrote: ↑Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:15 pmAnother poster who really has no clue. Yes, that's what I'm saying. If you, (a college age female) sleeps in the same bed as a college age male, there's a very good chance his hands may wander during the night. What a surprise! It may have been an accident. What people do while they are unconscious or semi conscious is hardly predictable. What if one of them groped him? Do you think he would have pressed charges? Unlikely. Incredible waste of taxpayer money.OrediggerPoke wrote: ↑Mon Feb 11, 2019 6:23 pmYou have to be kidding me! Who knows the relationship between Granderson and the girls but you are saying that sleeping in the same bed as someone is automatically an invitation to be groped? Thats F******* ridiculous!bladerunnr wrote: ↑Mon Feb 11, 2019 6:05 pm If that's all he did, the charges are ridiculous. Here's a thought: Hey girls, if you don't want to get groped, don't sleep in the same bed as a male.
I can think of multiple times during college (and some thereafter) where I ended up sleeping in the same bed as some female that I wasn't in any sort of relationship with because the person(s) was merely being responsible and didn't want to drive home drunk and didn't want to sleep on the floor either. That didn't give any rights to grope the other person.
If you were ever in a similar situation with a bunch of dudes and one of them happened to have a thing for dicks, you'd be cool with getting groped throughout the night? Have you ever been in tight quarters camping and sleeping in sleeping bags? Were your hands randomly groping everybody around you?
Seriously, avoiding the deed assault and rape is not difficult. I can't believe people are trying to defend this poop!
It's not hard to not fall asleep in a bed with someone you don't want to. just sayingAsmodeanreborn wrote: ↑Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:05 pmWait - you're saying the person has no clue because wandering hands happen? The described situation in that article is not an accident.bladerunnr wrote: ↑Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:15 pmAnother poster who really has no clue. Yes, that's what I'm saying. If you, (a college age female) sleeps in the same bed as a college age male, there's a very good chance his hands may wander during the night. What a surprise! It may have been an accident. What people do while they are unconscious or semi conscious is hardly predictable. What if one of them groped him? Do you think he would have pressed charges? Unlikely. Incredible waste of taxpayer money.OrediggerPoke wrote: ↑Mon Feb 11, 2019 6:23 pmYou have to be kidding me! Who knows the relationship between Granderson and the girls but you are saying that sleeping in the same bed as someone is automatically an invitation to be groped? Thats F******* ridiculous!bladerunnr wrote: ↑Mon Feb 11, 2019 6:05 pm If that's all he did, the charges are ridiculous. Here's a thought: Hey girls, if you don't want to get groped, don't sleep in the same bed as a male.
I can think of multiple times during college (and some thereafter) where I ended up sleeping in the same bed as some female that I wasn't in any sort of relationship with because the person(s) was merely being responsible and didn't want to drive home drunk and didn't want to sleep on the floor either. That didn't give any rights to grope the other person.
If you were ever in a similar situation with a bunch of dudes and one of them happened to have a thing for dicks, you'd be cool with getting groped throughout the night? Have you ever been in tight quarters camping and sleeping in sleeping bags? Were your hands randomly groping everybody around you?
Seriously, avoiding the deed assault and rape is not difficult. I can't believe people are trying to defend this poop!
I don't know - that was pretty standard whenever we had been partying and there wasn't a designated driver.LanderPoke wrote: ↑Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:52 pm It's not hard to not fall asleep in a bed with someone you don't want to. just saying
agree!'PokeForLife wrote: ↑Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:47 am Nobody wants to accept consequences for their actions these days, on either side. Should he have groped her? No. Should they have gotten into bed with him? No.
I'm not trying to take responsibility away from Granderson, just saying that all parties have at least some accountability here.
Very well stated! +1calpoke25 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:45 pm So if your daughter was the deed assaulted in some similar circumstance you would say “sorry honey, but you shouldn’t have dressed that way and gotten drunk and gone to that party and passed out in a college aged males bed. You had it coming. Let’s not ruin your assaulters life because you made a bad choice.” GTFOH with that.
I don’t know what Carl’s case is, let him have his due process. But poor judgement is not a crime. the deed assault is. You cannot equate the two. You cannot say w me reduce the punishment of the criminal because the victim made a poor choice and put themselves in a vulnerable position.
If I walk down the street with a million dollars cash in my hand and I get robbed you can’t let the robber off because it’s “understandable” and I made a poor choice. That’s not how this works.
Why even make it that extreme? How about walking down the street with your iPhone X?