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Transfer Thread

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 9:20 pm
by ragtimejoe1
Looks like Cameron Smith is gone. Not too surprising.

Maybe old news, but I'm sure there will be more transfer news in the future. This thread is to keep up with that.

Re: Transfer Thread

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 9:44 pm
by LanderPoke
A freshman WR Taylor is transferring

Re: Transfer Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:02 am
by HR_Poke
LanderPoke wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 9:44 pm A freshman WR Taylor is transferring
Can't blame him, if he's any good.

Re: Transfer Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:11 am
by PokeNer
LanderPoke wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 9:44 pm A freshman WR Taylor is transferring
The only Taylor on the roster is Keshaun Taylor and listed as Safety? Hopefully you don't mean Neyor, cause that would be terrible.

Re: Transfer Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:17 am
by LawPoke
HR_Poke wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:02 am
LanderPoke wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 9:44 pm A freshman WR Taylor is transferring
Can't blame him, if he's any good.
Agreed. Grant is a terrible WR coach. Terrible. Across the board - putrid.

Route running is awful, which throws off timing and the QB - and we cannot afford any more confusion or issues in our QB corps. When they do get open, which is very infrequent, they can't catch the ball. Unless the toss is literally between the numbers, they cannot adjust and make a catch - and even when it is, they drop the ball more often than not. Downfield blocking in the run and pass games is atrocious, which is a big deal in a ground and pound, run first offense. At very very least, Grant needs to get his walking papers. Then we can discuss Vigen and his A Gap/B Gap/3rd and 8 or more throw-a-hope-and-prayer-pass-to-close-out-a-series scheme and why he needs to go too. Our receivers regress even more than our QBs over a four year span in Laramie, which is saying a lot.

Re: Transfer Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:49 am
by LanderPoke
PokeNer wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:11 am
LanderPoke wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 9:44 pm A freshman WR Taylor is transferring
The only Taylor on the roster is Keshaun Taylor and listed as Safety? Hopefully you don't mean Neyor, cause that would be terrible.
Yeah, that's him. The thing I saw had him listed as a WR. weird

Re: Transfer Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 9:19 am
by PokeNer
LanderPoke wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:49 am
PokeNer wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:11 am
LanderPoke wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 9:44 pm A freshman WR Taylor is transferring
The only Taylor on the roster is Keshaun Taylor and listed as Safety? Hopefully you don't mean Neyor, cause that would be terrible.
Yeah, that's him. The thing I saw had him listed as a WR. weird
Thanks.

Solomon Byrd likes/tweets give the indication that wants to see a change on offense. Not sure what that means for his future. Anyone that thinks Vigen's piss poor performance only effects the offensive side of the ball, needs to think again.

Re: Transfer Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 9:41 am
by WYO1016
PokeNer wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 9:19 am Solomon Byrd likes/tweets give the indication that wants to see a change on offense. Not sure what that means for his future. Anyone that thinks Vigen's piss poor performance only effects the offensive side of the ball, needs to think again.
I've heard through the grapevine that the defense is PISSED at the ineptitude of the offense. Can't say I blame them. They're kicking ass, but they have to prop up our nonexistant offense.

Re: Transfer Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 9:49 am
by ragtimejoe1
WYO1016 wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 9:41 am
PokeNer wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 9:19 am Solomon Byrd likes/tweets give the indication that wants to see a change on offense. Not sure what that means for his future. Anyone that thinks Vigen's piss poor performance only effects the offensive side of the ball, needs to think again.
I've heard through the grapevine that the defense is PISSED at the ineptitude of the offense. Can't say I blame them. They're kicking A$$, but they have to prop up our nonexistant offense.
Not to :deadhorse1: but one of my complaints about Bohl (not in his last press conference) is that he seemed to throw the D under the bus even thought that was the only side of the ball performing at the FBS level. Meanwhile he sugarcoated everything about the offense. Could totally be my perception but I've wondered if the D ever felt that way?

That and what you point out has to make the D pretty damn angry.

Re: Transfer Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 10:44 am
by bullbugle307
There's no doubt the defense and their coaches past and present is/were pissed at this point. If it were an isolated incident of offensive ineptitude, that would be one thing.

I bet a lot of the offensive players past and present ain't too happy either.

I don't blame them one bit. Mutual accountability is a good thing.

Re: Transfer Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 11:43 am
by Asmodeanreborn
I mean, if our offense performed like our defense (top 25 in the NCAA in almost all categories and top 15 in some), we could easily have been 6-0 this season.

The UNLV game also pulled the averages for our offense up quite a bit, but going from 45 to 16 to 9 points is pretty rough.

Re: Transfer Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:57 pm
by laxwyo
PokeNer wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 9:19 am
LanderPoke wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:49 am
PokeNer wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:11 am
LanderPoke wrote: Tue Dec 15, 2020 9:44 pm A freshman WR Taylor is transferring
The only Taylor on the roster is Keshaun Taylor and listed as Safety? Hopefully you don't mean Neyor, cause that would be terrible.
Yeah, that's him. The thing I saw had him listed as a WR. weird
Thanks.

Solomon Byrd likes/tweets give the indication that wants to see a change on offense. Not sure what that means for his future. Anyone that thinks Vigen's piss poor performance only effects the offensive side of the ball, needs to think again.
I hope this means he's not transferring. I worry about the opt outs and Byrd was gigantic surprise last year.

Re: Transfer Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 9:00 pm
by Old-Bull
Asmodeanreborn wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 11:43 am I mean, if our offense performed like our defense (top 25 in the NCAA in almost all categories and top 15 in some), we could easily have been 6-0 this season.

The UNLV game also pulled the averages for our offense up quite a bit, but going from 45 to 16 to 9 points is pretty rough.
How the hell was the defense top 25 in anything giving up 37 to Nevada, 31 to Hawaii, and 34 to CSU? That was half our games.

Oh we held Boise down in a blizzard and kept UNM and Unlv under 20.

Everyone likes to hold Vigen accountable on this board, but sorry if I call poop on a dominant d that was top 25 in almost everything. That just can't be real when you give up 37, 34, and 31 points in a 6 game season.

Re: Transfer Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 9:02 pm
by Old-Bull
Double post.

Re: Transfer Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 9:10 pm
by PokeNer
Old-Bull wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 9:02 pm
Asmodeanreborn wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 11:43 am I mean, if our offense performed like our defense (top 25 in the NCAA in almost all categories and top 15 in some), we could easily have been 6-0 this season.

The UNLV game also pulled the averages for our offense up quite a bit, but going from 45 to 16 to 9 points is pretty rough.
How the hell was the defense top 25 in anything giving up 37 to Nevada, 31 to Hawaii, and 34 to CSU? That was half our games.

Oh we held Boise down in a blizzard and kept UNM and Unlv under 20.

Everyone likes to hold Vigen accountable on this board, but sorry if I call [#]sh#t on a dominant d that was "top 25 in almost everything". That just can't be real when you give up 37, 34, and 31 points in a 6 game season.
First, the D only gave up 7 to Hawaii. Second, 14 of the points given up to CSU were due to turnovers (one pick 6, the other lead the a TD the next play).

So outside of the very first game, they technically held each team to 20 or less. Considering we were missing nearly our entire starting D line, lost our top LB to the draft and were breaking in a new DC, I'd say that's not too shabby. Add in the fact that we got destroyed in TOP in 50% of our games, and I'd call that a damn solid season.

Re: Transfer Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 9:15 pm
by PokeNer
Also, in every major defensive statistical category except passing D, were top-25. Passing D is 31st. As mentioned, if the offense performed to that level, we would have went 6-0.

Scoring D - 25
Rushing D - 22
Passing D - 31
Total D - 19

Re: Transfer Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 9:30 pm
by Old-Bull
PokeNer wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 9:10 pm
Old-Bull wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 9:02 pm
Asmodeanreborn wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 11:43 am I mean, if our offense performed like our defense (top 25 in the NCAA in almost all categories and top 15 in some), we could easily have been 6-0 this season.

The UNLV game also pulled the averages for our offense up quite a bit, but going from 45 to 16 to 9 points is pretty rough.
How the hell was the defense top 25 in anything giving up 37 to Nevada, 31 to Hawaii, and 34 to CSU? That was half our games.

Oh we held Boise down in a blizzard and kept UNM and Unlv under 20.

Everyone likes to hold Vigen accountable on this board, but sorry if I call [#]sh#t on a dominant d that was "top 25 in almost everything". That just can't be real when you give up 37, 34, and 31 points in a 6 game season.
First, the D only gave up 7 to Hawaii. Second, 14 of the points given up to CSU were due to turnovers (one pick 6, the other lead the a TD the next play).

So outside of the very first game, they technically held each team to 20 or less. Considering we were missing nearly our entire starting D line, lost our top LB to the draft and were breaking in a new DC, I'd say that's not too shabby. Add in the fact that we got destroyed in TOP in 50% of our games, and I'd call that a damn solid season.
Yeah. We gave up 37 to Nevada and 31 to CSU. That was admirable for our third string defensive line, but I dont care what the stats say. We played Unm and Unlv. Our sos and a blizzard can take just as much credit for our defensive stats.

We should have beat Csu and Nevada and we scored enough points to win both of those games.

I'm not saying Vigen isn't responsible. He is. So are the 6 players that decided not to play this year and let our scout team d line play major reps.

That defense wasn't very good this year. I dont care what the stats say.

Re: Transfer Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 10:43 pm
by DVDA
Old-Bull wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 9:30 pm
PokeNer wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 9:10 pm
Old-Bull wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 9:02 pm
Asmodeanreborn wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 11:43 am I mean, if our offense performed like our defense (top 25 in the NCAA in almost all categories and top 15 in some), we could easily have been 6-0 this season.

The UNLV game also pulled the averages for our offense up quite a bit, but going from 45 to 16 to 9 points is pretty rough.
How the hell was the defense top 25 in anything giving up 37 to Nevada, 31 to Hawaii, and 34 to CSU? That was half our games.

Oh we held Boise down in a blizzard and kept UNM and Unlv under 20.

Everyone likes to hold Vigen accountable on this board, but sorry if I call [#]sh#t on a dominant d that was "top 25 in almost everything". That just can't be real when you give up 37, 34, and 31 points in a 6 game season.
First, the D only gave up 7 to Hawaii. Second, 14 of the points given up to CSU were due to turnovers (one pick 6, the other lead the a TD the next play).

So outside of the very first game, they technically held each team to 20 or less. Considering we were missing nearly our entire starting D line, lost our top LB to the draft and were breaking in a new DC, I'd say that's not too shabby. Add in the fact that we got destroyed in TOP in 50% of our games, and I'd call that a damn solid season.
Yeah. We gave up 37 to Nevada and 31 to CSU. That was admirable for our third string defensive line, but I dont care what the stats say. We played Unm and Unlv. Our sos and a blizzard can take just as much credit for our defensive stats.

We should have beat Csu and Nevada and we scored enough points to win both of those games.

I'm not saying Vigen isn't responsible. He is. So are the 6 players that decided not to play this year and let our scout team d line play major reps.

That defense wasn't very good this year. I dont care what the stats say.
Facts? We don't need no stinkin' facts!

Re: Transfer Thread

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 10:46 pm
by PokeNer
You sound like Bohl putting the losses on the D instead of the offensive ineptitude.

You're also not good at math. The D gave up 27 points to CSU. 7 of the 27 came after a turnover by our stellar offense deep in our own territory. They gave up 31 to Nevada in regulation.

They had a rough go against Nevada, no doubt. Nevada is a potent offense that we had trouble containing in the first game under our new DC and missing Crall. We were also missing Crall for CSU.

If you think this is a bad defense, you're clueless. They won't be confused for one of the best over the past few years, but they continuously got better and IMO put the team in a position to win every game.

The fact is the offense didn't score enough to win, cause that's how sports work and the reason there's a L in the W/L column for 4 out of 6 games.

Re: Transfer Thread

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 8:57 am
by WyomingAgJ
Old-Bull wrote: Wed Dec 16, 2020 9:30 pm Yeah. We gave up 37 to Nevada and 31 to CSU. That was admirable for our third string defensive line, but I dont care what the stats say. We played Unm and Unlv. Our sos and a blizzard can take just as much credit for our defensive stats.

We should have beat Csu and Nevada and we scored enough points to win both of those games.

I'm not saying Vigen isn't responsible. He is. So are the 6 players that decided not to play this year and let our scout team d line play major reps.

That defense wasn't very good this year. I dont care what the stats say.
Our offense got to feast on that bad UNM team as well. Oh wait...