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Road Woes

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 3:19 pm
by bullbugle307
We’re 18-50 on the road under Bohl. We have one road win over a conference opponent that finished the season with a winning record in his tenure. I mean…that’s straight up inexcusable.

What I’ve been trying to figure out is…are we just a really bad football team that’s bolstered by one of the best home field advantages in college football? I think this might partly be true…but I just really can’t imagine that’s all that’s at play here. The old saying “you can’t win in Laramie” comes to mind. That’s obviously not true…we kick ass in Laramie. We just can’t win anywhere else when it matters.

Some of it has got to be a difference between how they’re controlling the players before game day on the road vs at home right? I can’t imagine the team is out partying their assess off on the road right? I really can’t imagine they’re doing that at home either…I’ve been at a large training facility in Norman Ok and last year or the year before they had the OU football team in the facility the day before homecoming so they were essentially locked down. I assume we do something similar?

I’m gonna quit rambling…but I want to hear what you all think. What the hell is going on? There’s either got to be something very correctable that’s happening on the road that the coaches aren’t correcting…or we’re just a really bad team that plays at an elevation no one else is conditioned to. What gives?

Re: Road Woes

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 4:24 pm
by 307bball
I've always thought of us as being a bad road team and not necessarily a good home team. I think all the things you identified all seem likely as well.

Re: Road Woes

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 5:41 pm
by ZapPoke
I remember when Joe Namath said he would have the deed the night before a game and people were aghast because that was apparently a big no-no. Maybe take a page out of his book!

Re: Road Woes

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 5:42 pm
by ZapPoke
ZapPoke wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 5:41 pm I remember when Joe Namath said he would have the deed the night before a game and people were aghast because that was apparently a big no-no. Maybe take a page out of his book!
Seriously?! The word $ex gets changed to the deed?

Re: Road Woes

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 7:06 pm
by LanderPoke
307bball wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 4:24 pm I've always thought of us as being a bad road team and not necessarily a good home team. I think all the things you identified all seem likely as well.
By what metric are not a good home team

Re: Road Woes

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 7:24 pm
by 307bball
LanderPoke wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 7:06 pm
307bball wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 4:24 pm I've always thought of us as being a bad road team and not necessarily a good home team. I think all the things you identified all seem likely as well.
By what metric are not a good home team
We are obviously better at home. Was just reacting to bullbugle's framing of the question. I have always looked at it as "we are a bad road team" and not like "we are so good at home", but maybe that is more accurate. Or it's both.

Re: Road Woes

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 8:09 pm
by Wyokie
I believe the last time we were actually good on the road was during the 1990s. Starting with the Keonning Horror, we stink on the road.

Re: Road Woes

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 8:53 pm
by MrTitleist
Ha... weird. The word filter looks like it got turned on globally. Internet is afraid people doing the deed. lol

Re: Road Woes

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 9:58 pm
by stymeman
4 point dogs already, wonder if redshoes has ever kicked field goals in a dome before, should be interesting to see how much this line moves this week

Re: Road Woes

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 11:22 pm
by WestWYOPoke
stymeman wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 9:58 pm 4 point dogs already, wonder if redshoes has ever kicked field goals in a dome before, should be interesting to see how much this line moves this week
Not only has he kicked indoors before, but this won't even be Hoyland's first game at Allegiant Stadium. In 2020 he was 1/1 FG and 6/6 on PATs.

Re: Road Woes

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 6:32 am
by OrediggerPoke
stymeman wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 9:58 pm 4 point dogs already, wonder if redshoes has ever kicked field goals in a dome before, should be interesting to see how much this line moves this week
Line now UNLV -4.5. I bet the final line will be closer to -6.5.

Re: Road Woes

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 7:10 am
by LanderPoke
Doubt we win. I’m done being optimistic about this team away from Laramie

Re: Road Woes

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 8:01 am
by bladerunnr
Hard to win on the road when you have no offense. UNLV just hung 50 on New Mexico. When's the last time we hung 50 on anyone? How about 40? In 3 road games this year, we've scored the grand total of 44 points.
So yeah, I'm not betting on us this week. Even with 3 turnovers, we only scored 24 last week. Couldn't even punch it in with 1st and goal from the 3.

Re: Road Woes

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 8:52 am
by LanderPoke
bladerunnr wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 8:01 am Hard to win on the road when you have no offense. UNLV just hung 50 on New Mexico. When's the last time we hung 50 on anyone? How about 40? In 3 road games this year, we've scored the grand total of 44 points.
So yeah, I'm not betting on us this week. Even with 3 turnovers, we only scored 24 last week. Couldn't even punch it in with 1st and goal from the 3.
Yeah. I gives us around 5% chance to win. If it's not the offense struggling, it's the defense. We haven't put a "complete game" together in years.

Re: Road Woes

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 9:53 am
by 307bball
LanderPoke wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 8:52 am
bladerunnr wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 8:01 am Hard to win on the road when you have no offense. UNLV just hung 50 on New Mexico. When's the last time we hung 50 on anyone? How about 40? In 3 road games this year, we've scored the grand total of 44 points.
So yeah, I'm not betting on us this week. Even with 3 turnovers, we only scored 24 last week. Couldn't even punch it in with 1st and goal from the 3.
Yeah. I gives us around 5% chance to win. If it's not the offense struggling, it's the defense. We haven't put a "complete game" together in years.
If you look at teams that consistently put "complete games" together in college football, it's an alarmingly short list. Even P5 teams have glaring holes that they have to gameplan around. That being said....does it seem like there is a talent drain affecting teams outside of the top-50 or so? I have no stats to back this up but it feels like the talent level is lower than it used to be.

Re: Road Woes

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:02 am
by doreno5
Not optimistic about UNLV. Wyoming normally is not good on the road but will show up occasionally. The first halves v. AFA and Texas, Wyoming played well before the wheels came off in the second. This is another pattern with Bohl does anyone else remember us going in as huge favorites against U Conn and barely surviving? Or how about losing to a winless New Mexico in 2020? Or 2016, with Josh Allen, Brian Hill and a really good team losing to UNLV 69-66?

Re: Road Woes

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:15 am
by Poke in New England
bladerunnr wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 8:01 am Hard to win on the road when you have no offense. UNLV just hung 50 on New Mexico. When's the last time we hung 50 on anyone? How about 40? In 3 road games this year, we've scored the grand total of 44 points.
So yeah, I'm not betting on us this week. Even with 3 turnovers, we only scored 24 last week. Couldn't even punch it in with 1st and goal from the 3.
We scored 50+ twice in 2021 (Northern Illinois and Kent State in the Tater bowl). Same year we scored 40+ against Ball State and Utah State.

The last time we scored 50+ in conference was UNLV at home in 2019.

Re: Road Woes

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:49 am
by OrediggerPoke
Poke in New England wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:15 am
bladerunnr wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 8:01 am Hard to win on the road when you have no offense. UNLV just hung 50 on New Mexico. When's the last time we hung 50 on anyone? How about 40? In 3 road games this year, we've scored the grand total of 44 points.
So yeah, I'm not betting on us this week. Even with 3 turnovers, we only scored 24 last week. Couldn't even punch it in with 1st and goal from the 3.
We scored 50+ twice in 2021 (Northern Illinois and Kent State in the Tater bowl). Same year we scored 40+ against Ball State and Utah State.

The last time we scored 50+ in conference was UNLV at home in 2019.
This is a good point - Bohl’s offense notoriously runs all over MAC teams.

Re: Road Woes

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 6:33 am
by OrediggerPoke
OrediggerPoke wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 6:32 am
stymeman wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 9:58 pm 4 point dogs already, wonder if redshoes has ever kicked field goals in a dome before, should be interesting to see how much this line moves this week
Line now UNLV -4.5. I bet the final line will be closer to -6.5.
Line has moved to UNLV -5.5.

Re: Road Woes

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 8:15 am
by bladerunnr
OrediggerPoke wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 6:33 am
OrediggerPoke wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 6:32 am

Line now UNLV -4.5. I bet the final line will be closer to -6.5.
Line has moved to UNLV -5.5.
Is that good or bad? Csewe went from a 7 pt dog to a 6 pt dog against us. We covered. I'm guessing Seattle Cowboy would say to go against the line moves. I can't believe we can't cover this line, let alone win. This is UNLV, for god's sakes.