OSU and WSU open a crack in the MWC door...

[GOWYO]

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footb ... er-report/

[TheRealUW]

This would basically result in five non-conference games for MWC teams in 2024.

I hope the MWC tries to include direct compensation from WSU or OSU for MWC teams that are forced to go play them on the road.

[ragtimejoe1]

IF, there are no contract stipulations to prevent the pac2 from inviting select MWC teams, then the MWC may have cracked the door to their deathbed.

If there are contract stipulations to prevent raiding of the MWC by the pac2, then not a bad deal. I hope we get 1 of them in the War!

[sandiegopoke]

There are contract stipulations to prevent raiding the conference and from what I've read, OSU and WSU won't really have the $$ to try to force it.

[laxwyo]

Don't know why we'd help them survive unless there's some kind of long term agreement. Keep them alive long enough to poach 6 schools with no exit fees sounds dumb.

[ragtimejoe1]

There are contract stipulations to prevent raiding the conference and from what I've read, OSU and WSU won't really have the $$ to try to force it.

I read that floated around prior to the announcement of this agreement. Did you find something that said the scheduling agreement contained a "no poach" stipulation for sure?

Not doubting you; I just hadn't seen it yet.

[OrediggerPoke]

There are contract stipulations to prevent raiding the conference and from what I've read, OSU and WSU won't really have the $$ to try to force it.

I read that floated around prior to the announcement of this agreement. Did you find something that said the scheduling agreement contained a "no poach" stipulation for sure?

Not doubting you; I just hadn't seen it yet.

I doubt you would see a pure "no poach" restraint in a contract. Such a provision is likely unenforceable. But you might see a liquidated damages clause requiring the PAC to shell out money to the MWC if it were to poach schools.

[ragtimejoe1]

I read that floated around prior to the announcement of this agreement. Did you find something that said the scheduling agreement contained a "no poach" stipulation for sure?

Not doubting you; I just hadn't seen it yet.

I doubt you would see a pure "no poach" restraint in a contract. Such a provision is likely unenforceable. But you might see a liquidated damages clause requiring the PAC to shell out money to the MWC if it were to poach schools.

It'll be interesting to see if anything made it in. Not saying it didn't just that I'd like to see the terms of the agreement.

[Lost Poke]

Whether the Pac 2 want to "poach" MWC schools, or one conference merges into the other will be pretty much 100% dictated by media contracts.

And the MWC contract is up in 2026, I believe. PAC doesn't even have one.

[ragtimejoe1]

Whether the Pac 2 want to "poach" MWC schools, or one conference merges into the other will be pretty much 100% dictated by media contracts.

And the MWC contract is up in 2026, I believe. PAC doesn't even have one.

No doubt but I wonder if there is addition by subtraction?

I could see a scenario where a pac 9 (or whatever) is less total money but more per school than a pack 14 (or whatever).

The key, I think is more the playoff negotiation the next round. Do they close the door completely on non-P4? Also if either MWC and/or pac tv deal is relatively miniscule, I would guess regionalism for other sports creeps up the priority list.

[sandiegopoke]

There are contract stipulations to prevent raiding the conference and from what I've read, OSU and WSU won't really have the $$ to try to force it.

I read that floated around prior to the announcement of this agreement. Did you find something that said the scheduling agreement contained a "no poach" stipulation for sure?

Not doubting you; I just hadn't seen it yet.

The story makes no mention of the actual agreement, just "a source says." It was announced as part of the ground rules, and it wasn't explicitly called out as removed.

[laxwyo]

Whether the Pac 2 want to "poach" MWC schools, or one conference merges into the other will be pretty much 100% dictated by media contracts.

And the MWC contract is up in 2026, I believe. PAC doesn't even have one.

No doubt but I wonder if there is addition by subtraction?

I could see a scenario where a pac 9 (or whatever) is less total money but more per school than a pack 14 (or whatever).

The key, I think is more the playoff negotiation the next round. Do they close the door completely on non-P4? Also if either MWC and/or pac tv deal is relatively miniscule, I would guess regionalism for other sports creeps up the priority list.

Whatever comes out of this, the conference will not be part of the P5 talk. It's now P4. PAC/MW access to playoff will be just like every other non P4 conference.

[doreno5]

No doubt but I wonder if there is addition by subtraction?

I could see a scenario where a pac 9 (or whatever) is less total money but more per school than a pack 14 (or whatever).

The key, I think is more the playoff negotiation the next round. Do they close the door completely on non-P4? Also if either MWC and/or pac tv deal is relatively miniscule, I would guess regionalism for other sports creeps up the priority list.

Whatever comes out of this, the conference will not be part of the P5 talk. It's now P4. PAC/MW access to playoff will be just like every other non P4 conference.

In my opinion sooner than might be expected there will only be 2 super-power conferences SEC and Big 10 broken into 2 conferences each. many of the so-called P5 teams now will be winnowed out as those form.

[ragtimejoe1]

PAC/MW access to playoff will be just like every other non P4 conference.

Agreed. I'm thinking it'll be no access. I predict the next round of playoff negotiations will not go well for the current g5(or 6).

The question is: what will be the impact to the g5/6? It's conceivable that the TV money focuses entirely on the top division and dries up completely for the g5/6.

I'm betting major changes are coming.

[laxwyo]

Whatever comes out of this, the conference will not be part of the P5 talk. It's now P4. PAC/MW access to playoff will be just like every other non P4 conference.

In my opinion sooner than might be expected there will only be 2 super-power conferences SEC and Big 10 broken into 2 conferences each. many of the so-called P5 teams now will be winnowed out as those form.

I agree with this. The super players will not want to share and at this point, I wish they'd get together soon and form some kind of new league with 32-36 teams. More fat will be trimmed and the others can come back and play. It should mostly be SEC and Big 10 but they'll add florida st. They've already been crying. SEC will kick vandy out. Big 10 might even trim some teams out to make room for some B12 teams.

In an ideal world, they'd implement the relegation model Mountain West/PAC was kicking around. Start with a 32 Team Champions League with bottom 6 team being relegated to the Normie League and the Top 6 Normies being promoted to Champions League. That would be really fun. I'd imagine this league would almost get NFL money for TV rights. The relegation "bowl" games at the end would be amazing

[ZapPoke]

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[WYO_Fan_inPA]

This would basically result in five non-conference games for MWC teams in 2024.

I hope the MWC tries to include direct compensation from WSU or OSU for MWC teams that are forced to go play them on the road.

They have to pay the conference $14 million per season or $28 million total.

[phxpoke]

If one of those teams beats up on the rest of the conference, yet can’t play for the championship, it will be a bad look for the MWC.

[Itsux2beaewe]

If one of those teams beats up on the rest of the conference, yet can’t play for the championship, it will be a bad look for the MWC.

Meh, I’m not sure why. They aren’t in the MW conference. By their choice. The end of the article states Barnes wants to rebuild the Pac12. Likely with MW teams.

[sandiegopoke]

Meh, I’m not sure why. They aren’t in the MW conference. By their choice. The end of the article states Barnes wants to rebuild the Pac12. Likely with MW teams.

Barnes can plan all he wants. They will not have any way to do so as the buyouts remain next year.