You're misreading my comment, but perhaps I should have clarified. Bad phrasing on my part.ragtimejoe1 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2024 9:03 amWhat specific years did his offense BOTH rank below WYO AND against lesser competition. I'm only taking about this specific statement from you.DamThatRiver22 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 07, 2024 8:53 am
Jay Johnson national offensive ranks as OC:
At Louisiana (SBC)
2011 - 51st
2012 - 29th
2013 - 58th
2014 - 57th
2015 - 77th
At Minnesota (B1G)
2016 - 107th
At Colorado (Pac-12)
2019 - 83rd
At Michigan State (B1G)
2020 - 109th
2021 - 42nd
2022 - 97th
2023 - 128th
In case you're curious, the vast majority of his offenses ranked below Wyoming's, even against lesser competition..
For the record I'm not saying anything about Johnson other than it certainly fits the hiring process at WYO. (We don't need to rehash this).
The vast majority of his offenses have performed worse than Wyoming's (this is the base statement); the side point is that some of them have also been against worse competition. That's all.
I don't have the time to dig back into the stats this morning, but I know 2013 had a pretty big gap in favor of Wyoming. (Unless the argument is that the SBC of years past was just as strong as the MWC, which I don't think anyone actually thinks. Lol.)
It should also be noted that even with an increase in competitive difficulty/conference strength comes an increase in resources and access to talent that he simply hasn't capitalized on; over the last decade he has consistently fielded offenses in the bottom 10-30% of the nation at three different P5 schools.
Anyway (the rest of this isn't in response to you, just avoiding double posting):
Again, he seems to do a bit better in lower levels of football and maybe he'll have some sort of revival, but even in the SBC he was "average" with one standout year out of 5 (offset by one pretty poor year and three decent years) so I'm not holding my breath for some sort of miracle.
Bottom line, he's had one good offense in the last decade and when literally every fan I talk to from his last three teams is sending their condolences, it doesn't bode well. I'm not sure why this is a controversial take to some.