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Craig Bohl's Legacy

Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2024 10:03 am
by 307bball
Rate Craig Bohl's Legacy.

Re: Craig Bohl's Legacy

Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2024 11:18 am
by OrediggerPoke
Many folks were happy when ‘average Joe’ Tiller left because they were convinced that a head coach was holding Wyoming back from championships.

I gave Bohl an 8 (rounded up from 7.5) based on what he inherited to the respectable and competitive program he and his staff built. I hope I am wrong but without some changes to college football, I foresee us missing the Bohl’s days sometime down the road.

Re: Craig Bohl's Legacy

Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2024 11:26 am
by Lost Poke
Speaking only of coaches with .500 or better records that I saw in my lifetime

Better than Dye, Christensen, Erickson (because he left a really pissed off fan base behind), Dimel

Not as good as Tiller, Roach

Re: Craig Bohl's Legacy

Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2024 11:59 am
by OrediggerPoke
Lost Poke wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 11:26 am Speaking only of coaches with .500 or better records that I saw in my lifetime

Better than Dye, Christensen, Erickson (because he left a really pissed off fan base behind), Dimel

Not as good as Tiller, Roach
Christensen was 27-35 overall or roughly .435.

Re: Craig Bohl's Legacy

Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2024 1:56 pm
by 307bball
OrediggerPoke wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 11:18 am Many folks were happy when ‘average Joe’ Tiller left because they were convinced that a head coach was holding Wyoming back from championships.

I gave Bohl an 8 (rounded up from 7.5) based on what he inherited to the respectable and competitive program he and his staff built. I hope I am wrong but without some changes to college football, I foresee us missing the Bohl’s days sometime down the road.
7 for me...based mostly on just getting the program constently upright after years and years of malaise. 8 felt too high but just barely.

Re: Craig Bohl's Legacy

Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2024 3:36 pm
by LanderPoke
7 for me. If you cherry pick the last 8 years he was pretty solid.

Re: Craig Bohl's Legacy

Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2024 4:02 pm
by ragtimejoe1
6 for me. If mwc weren't dog$hit, I'd go 7.

Re: Craig Bohl's Legacy

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 8:42 am
by McPeachy
Is the purpose of this poll to show everyone that our fanbase is satisfied with being very average? :whistle:

Re: Craig Bohl's Legacy

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 1:30 pm
by 307bball
McPeachy wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 8:42 am Is the purpose of this poll to show everyone that our fanbase is satisfied with being very average? :whistle:
Just trying to get a sense of what people think of Bohl. It's hitting about where I expected it would. He's a highly respected coach that was a great cultural fit for Wyoming...even if he never got to the mountain top. His biggest accomplishment, unfortunately, was not a conference championship....it was creating a program that was firmly out of the dregs of the conference once he got going. If he had followed great coaches with lots of 10 win seasons he would not be regarded as highly....but people's memories are not bad enough to forget the lows of he last 25 or so years. Thus, you get a lot of people tipping the cap to him even if he's not regarded as the best. :whistle:

Re: Craig Bohl's Legacy

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 1:58 pm
by Lost Poke
OrediggerPoke wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 11:59 am
Lost Poke wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 11:26 am Speaking only of coaches with .500 or better records that I saw in my lifetime

Better than Dye, Christensen, Erickson (because he left a really pissed off fan base behind), Dimel

Not as good as Tiller, Roach
Christensen was 27-35 overall or roughly .435.
I forgot how bad 2010 was.

Re: Craig Bohl's Legacy

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 2:22 pm
by TheRealUW
Lost Poke wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 1:58 pm
OrediggerPoke wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2024 11:59 am Christensen was 27-35 overall or roughly .435.
I forgot how bad 2010 was.
That was a very painful year, although we did find a way to beat CSU 44-0 to close out the season.

Re: Craig Bohl's Legacy

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 2:40 pm
by ragtimejoe1
TheRealUW wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 2:22 pm
Lost Poke wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 1:58 pm

I forgot how bad 2010 was.
That was a very painful year, although we did find a way to beat CSU 44-0 to close out the season.
Bohl's first 2 years were top 5 worst Wyoming teams imo. Maybe top 3

Re: Craig Bohl's Legacy

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 2:48 pm
by TheRealUW
ragtimejoe1 wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 2:40 pm
TheRealUW wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 2:22 pm

That was a very painful year, although we did find a way to beat CSU 44-0 to close out the season.
Bohl's first 2 years were top 5 worst Wyoming teams imo. Maybe top 3
I agree on his second year. It was atrocious.

His first year was bad, but I wouldn't put it in top 5 worst teams.

Re: Craig Bohl's Legacy

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:35 pm
by OrediggerPoke
ragtimejoe1 wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 2:40 pm
TheRealUW wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 2:22 pm

That was a very painful year, although we did find a way to beat CSU 44-0 to close out the season.
Bohl's first 2 years were top 5 worst Wyoming teams imo. Maybe top 3
The transfer portal didn’t exist and he was left with largely a garbage and undeveloped roster by DC and staff. Back then, you couldn’t easily plug gaping holes in the roster. Bohl’s 3rd year - MWC championship game.

Re: Craig Bohl's Legacy

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:57 pm
by Lost Poke
ragtimejoe1 wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 2:40 pm
TheRealUW wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 2:22 pm

That was a very painful year, although we did find a way to beat CSU 44-0 to close out the season.
Bohl's first 2 years were top 5 worst Wyoming teams imo. Maybe top 3
No way - the top three will always be 2000/2001/2002. I've never seen ineptitude at that level...Bohl's teams never performed like that.

Re: Craig Bohl's Legacy

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:02 pm
by OrediggerPoke
Lost Poke wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:57 pm
ragtimejoe1 wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 2:40 pm

Bohl's first 2 years were top 5 worst Wyoming teams imo. Maybe top 3
No way - the top three will always be 2000/2001/2002. I've never seen ineptitude at that level...Bohl's teams never performed like that.
1-21 in conference over those years. How quickly folks forget I guess.

Re: Craig Bohl's Legacy

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:34 pm
by Lost Poke
OrediggerPoke wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:02 pm
Lost Poke wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:57 pm

No way - the top three will always be 2000/2001/2002. I've never seen ineptitude at that level...Bohl's teams never performed like that.
1-21 in conference over those years. How quickly folks forget I guess.
God bless Casey Bramlet for surviving it.

Re: Craig Bohl's Legacy

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:30 pm
by TheRealUW
OrediggerPoke wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:02 pm [quote="Lost Poke" post_id=278724 time=<a href="tel:1707865057">1707865057</a> user_id=216]
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Bohl's first 2 years were top 5 worst Wyominfolks forget I guess.
Those years were particularly bad because we had three terrible seasons in a row and the fans had completely lost hope that Koenig could get the program turned around. Those games felt utterly useless to play - I assumed a loss each time we stepped on the field.

That said, I remember those teams being at least competitive. You never felt they were good enough to actually win, but they would keep the scores close enough to give you just a small inkling of hope. In Bohl’s second year, we were not competitive at all. I’d have to look at the scores to be sure, but I would bet the games we lost were a lot closer in 2002 than they were in 2015.

Re: Craig Bohl's Legacy

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:48 pm
by OrediggerPoke
TheRealUW wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:30 pm
OrediggerPoke wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:02 pm [quote="Lost Poke" post_id=278724 time=<a href="tel:1707865057">1707865057</a> user_id=216]
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Bohl's first 2 years were top 5 worst Wyominfolks forget I guess.
Those years were particularly bad because we had three terrible seasons in a row and the fans had completely lost hope that Koenig could get the program turned around. Those games felt utterly useless to play - I assumed a loss each time we stepped on the field.

That said, I remember those teams being at least competitive. You never felt they were good enough to actually win, but they would keep the scores close enough to give you just a small inkling of hope. In Bohl’s second year, we were not competitive at all. I’d have to look at the scores to be sure, but I would bet the games we lost were a lot closer in 2002 than they were in 2015.
You messed up the quotes. But my recollection of 2000-2002 was no hope ever but plenty of garbage time touchdowns and inflated offensive stats as we played from behind always. My recollection from 2015 was a decimated roster that had to roll out perhaps the most out of his league QB Wyoming has ever put on the field for multiple games (Nick Smith).

Re: Craig Bohl's Legacy

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:23 pm
by ragtimejoe1
OrediggerPoke wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:02 pm
Lost Poke wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:57 pm

No way - the top three will always be 2000/2001/2002. I've never seen ineptitude at that level...Bohl's teams never performed like that.
1-21 in conference over those years. How quickly folks forget I guess.
Bad teams also. Bohl's are right up there against worse competition.