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307bball wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2024 10:24 am

LawPoke wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2024 9:44 am I have never put much stock in comparing coaches at UW. So I try not to do it.

I do put a lot of stock in an individual coach's record. As the old adage says, you are what your record says you are. Bohl has a career 61-60 record. He was and always will be a mediocre coach to me. Great coaches win conference titles. Great coaches may have a down year or two while they get their roster settled, but then win...a lot. Great coaches always beat the teams they are supposed to beat and are at least batting .500 against the top of the league as they fight for conference crowns. Great coaches adapt systems to their personnel and can change. Bohl is not a great coach - at least judging from his time at Wyoming. He was serviceable and mostly mediocre.

Which, unfortunately, is an upgrade relative to what was going on in Laramie since the year 2000. I don't hear a lot of "greatness" talk when referring to Bohl.

Bohl reset the floor of the program and we are in a precarious spot right now with Bohl retiring. I don't think the level that Bohl was able to maintain came easily. He fought and scrapped to create a respectable program the right way that, once it was running, didn't really backslide. The next era could easily backslide. And once that happens, it is a pit that is really, really hard to dig out of. I don't want a high point of appearing in one championship game and then largely not being in the conversation of the best of the MWC. I don't even want the San Jose State style of success....one championship (Covid year), but otherwise forgettable. I would love to get to the somewhere between what BSU accomplishes and the AFA rate of success...that may be the top end of what you can achieve without any sort of NIL support to speak of.

Interestingly...AFA is a bit like Wyoming with respect to championships and championship game appearance during Bohl's tenure...both teams in the upper half of the conference and only one championship game appearance (loss).

OrediggerPoke wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2024 8:42 am

ragtimejoe1 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2024 7:51 am


DCs 8 win team was right up there with some of Bohl's better teams. Bohl's team in 2018, covid, and even last year weren't anything to write home about. I forgot, we're also excluding covid year

No it wasn't. That 2011 DC team team was blasted by then WAC (and 7-6) Utah State 19-63 and then turned in one of the ugliest bowl performances getting curb stomped by the Temple Owls in Albuquerque.

ragtimejoe1 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2024 11:53 am

OrediggerPoke wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2024 8:42 am

No it wasn't. That 2011 DC team team was blasted by then WAC (and 7-6) Utah State 19-63 and then turned in one of the ugliest bowl performances getting curb stomped by the Temple Owls in Albuquerque.

Numbers don't agree with you. Matches some of Bohl's best records against a stronger schedule. Bsu and unlv were great last year.

flyfishwyo wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2024 10:49 am

307bball wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2024 10:24 am

Which, unfortunately, is an upgrade relative to what was going on in Laramie since the year 2000. I don't hear a lot of "greatness" talk when referring to Bohl.

Bohl reset the floor of the program and we are in a precarious spot right now with Bohl retiring. I don't think the level that Bohl was able to maintain came easily. He fought and scrapped to create a respectable program the right way that, once it was running, didn't really backslide. The next era could easily backslide. And once that happens, it is a pit that is really, really hard to dig out of. I don't want a high point of appearing in one championship game and then largely not being in the conversation of the best of the MWC. I don't even want the San Jose State style of success....one championship (Covid year), but otherwise forgettable. I would love to get to the somewhere between what BSU accomplishes and the AFA rate of success...that may be the top end of what you can achieve without any sort of NIL support to speak of.

Interestingly...AFA is a bit like Wyoming with respect to championships and championship game appearance during Bohl's tenure...both teams in the upper half of the conference and only one championship game appearance (loss).

I think time will be kind to Bohl. In a few years he'll be looked at in a more positive light.

OrediggerPoke wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2024 12:51 pm

ragtimejoe1 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 20, 2024 11:53 am

Numbers don't agree with you. Matches some of Bohl's best records against a stronger schedule. Bsu and unlv were great last year.

What numbers don’t agree with me? The 303 rushing yards we gave up to then WAC 1-3 Utah State in the 63-19 blasting? Or is it the 255 yards rushing we gave up to the mighty Temple Owls in the bowl drubbing? That was DC’s best year!!

One consistent thing about DC’s teams, they were softer than charmin up front. I can’t imagine what Holani and Jeanty would have done to them.