I'd like to see MWC
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talk to the other G5 conferences and start a 4 team tournament at the end of the season instead of sending teams to lame bowls. Top 4 G5 conference winners (if not invited to NC tournament) duke it out for an NIT type championship. Or you could do 4 G5's and first 4 out P5 teams . I'd watch the hell out of that.
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I think Chip Kelly's prediction/idea will come to pass.
65 (or whatever) in p5 division for football only. Likely some sort of divisions within that. Money share among those.
65 (or whatever) in new g5 division for football only. Probably becomes similar to current fcs. Probably not a lot of money to worry about but also some sort of share system among the collective.
Then, regional conferences for all other sports (obviously size, budget, sports offered, etc. comes into play). Individual conference tv and keep current ncaa revenue system.
This solves pretty much everything.
65 (or whatever) in p5 division for football only. Likely some sort of divisions within that. Money share among those.
65 (or whatever) in new g5 division for football only. Probably becomes similar to current fcs. Probably not a lot of money to worry about but also some sort of share system among the collective.
Then, regional conferences for all other sports (obviously size, budget, sports offered, etc. comes into play). Individual conference tv and keep current ncaa revenue system.
This solves pretty much everything.
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But how will Duke's Mayo put on a mayo shower for the winning coach?!laxwyo wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 6:38 pm talk to the other G5 conferences and start a 4 team tournament at the end of the season instead of sending teams to lame bowls. Top 4 G5 conference winners (if not invited to NC tournament) duke it out for an NIT type championship. Or you could do 4 G5's and first 4 out P5 teams . I'd watch the hell out of that.
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I like your idea. Realistically this could probably happen.laxwyo wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 6:38 pm talk to the other G5 conferences and start a 4 team tournament at the end of the season instead of sending teams to lame bowls. Top 4 G5 conference winners (if not invited to NC tournament) duke it out for an NIT type championship. Or you could do 4 G5's and first 4 out P5 teams . I'd watch the hell out of that.
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What I would like is a FCS type playoff of the G5 teams. Realistically there is too much money and ego involved in the current bowl system for that to ever happen.PokesArePeopleToo wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 12:12 amI like your idea. Realistically this could probably happen.laxwyo wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 6:38 pm talk to the other G5 conferences and start a 4 team tournament at the end of the season instead of sending teams to lame bowls. Top 4 G5 conference winners (if not invited to NC tournament) duke it out for an NIT type championship. Or you could do 4 G5's and first 4 out P5 teams . I'd watch the hell out of that.
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I think the overall interest and viewership for this type of thing would be much much lower than we would all like to admit.
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There would be interest from the particular school’s fanbases and that’s probably it. As I understand, the FCS and Division 2 playoff models actually lose money.Poke in New England wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 11:48 am I think the overall interest and viewership for this type of thing would be much much lower than we would all like to admit.
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So, probably not as bad as the bowl games? I'd think a couple of top g5 teams and low to mid p5 playing for something would be better than our current slate of bowl games. I can't imagine the Chicken Tender bowl gets tons of views. Wonder how many watched our Barstool bowlOrediggerPoke wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:29 pmThere would be interest from the particular school’s fanbases and that’s probably it. As I understand, the FCS and Division 2 playoff models actually lose money.Poke in New England wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 11:48 am I think the overall interest and viewership for this type of thing would be much much lower than we would all like to admit.
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Speaking for me personally - I'd rather not have home games in December in Laramie. A G5 playoffs doesn't make any sense for neutral site games because there would likely never be a big enough audience for the multiple games to make it feasible. The Barstool Bowl probably didn't kill any ratings; but at least it was an enticing game to travel to and attend due to location. The Potato Bowl should go away however.laxwyo wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2023 11:18 amSo, probably not as bad as the bowl games? I'd think a couple of top g5 teams and low to mid p5 playing for something would be better than our current slate of bowl games. I can't imagine the Chicken Tender bowl gets tons of views. Wonder how many watched our Barstool bowlOrediggerPoke wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:29 pm
There would be interest from the particular school’s fanbases and that’s probably it. As I understand, the FCS and Division 2 playoff models actually lose money.
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The Birmingham Bowl (ECU vs Coastal Carolina) was the most watched G5 vs G5 bowl game last year - with 2.62 million viewers. For reference, the 50th most watched NON-NFL sporting event last year had 10 million viewers.laxwyo wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2023 11:18 amSo, probably not as bad as the bowl games? I'd think a couple of top g5 teams and low to mid p5 playing for something would be better than our current slate of bowl games. I can't imagine the Chicken Tender bowl gets tons of views. Wonder how many watched our Barstool bowlOrediggerPoke wrote: ↑Fri Aug 11, 2023 1:29 pm
There would be interest from the particular school’s fanbases and that’s probably it. As I understand, the FCS and Division 2 playoff models actually lose money.
The Tulane vs USC Cotton Bowl (biggest bowl game with a G5 team) had just over 4 million viewers, less than half of any of the other NY6 bowls.
Of course the Arizona bowl we don't have any Nielsen ratings for since it was not on television.
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This concept is coming up so much, it almost seems inevitable because it makes sense. https://awfulannouncing.com/college-foo ... ement.html
Buckle up.
Buckle up.
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Like it or not, big time college football is becoming the minor leagues of the NFL. There will still be football played outside of the bigs but we are looking at several tiers of competition with Wyoming most likely in the third tier if we are not there already.ragtimejoe1 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 15, 2023 1:44 pm This concept is coming up so much, it almost seems inevitable because it makes sense. https://awfulannouncing.com/college-foo ... ement.html
Buckle up.
The Birmingham Bowl (ECU vs Coastal Carolina) was the most watched G5 vs G5 bowl game last year - with 2.62 million viewers. For reference, the 50th most watched NON-NFL sporting event last year had 10 million viewers.
The Tulane vs USC Cotton Bowl (biggest bowl game with a G5 team) had just over 4 million viewers, less than half of any of the other NY6 bowls.
Of course the Arizona bowl we don't have any Nielsen ratings for since it was not on television.
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" According to data provided to Front Office Sports (FOS), Ohio Bobcats’ win over the Wyoming Cowboys on 30th December brought in one million views in total. This includes 500,000 unique viewers, with the broadcast gaining a maximum of 130,000 concurrent viewers on Barstool’s website, app and social media channels, the FOS report said. "
The Tulane vs USC Cotton Bowl (biggest bowl game with a G5 team) had just over 4 million viewers, less than half of any of the other NY6 bowls.
Of course the Arizona bowl we don't have any Nielsen ratings for since it was not on television.
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" According to data provided to Front Office Sports (FOS), Ohio Bobcats’ win over the Wyoming Cowboys on 30th December brought in one million views in total. This includes 500,000 unique viewers, with the broadcast gaining a maximum of 130,000 concurrent viewers on Barstool’s website, app and social media channels, the FOS report said. "
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" According to data provided to Front Office Sports (FOS), Ohio Bobcats’ win over the Wyoming Cowboys on 30th December brought in one million views in total. This includes 500,000 unique viewers, with the broadcast gaining a maximum of 130,000 concurrent viewers on Barstool’s website, app and social media channels, the FOS report said. "cowboyz wrote: ↑Wed Aug 16, 2023 9:48 pm The Birmingham Bowl (ECU vs Coastal Carolina) was the most watched G5 vs G5 bowl game last year - with 2.62 million viewers. For reference, the 50th most watched NON-NFL sporting event last year had 10 million viewers.
The Tulane vs USC Cotton Bowl (biggest bowl game with a G5 team) had just over 4 million viewers, less than half of any of the other NY6 bowls.
Of course the Arizona bowl we don't have any Nielsen ratings for since it was not on television.
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Yeah, none of this s.h.i.t matters. Our market sucks no matter what the fanboys say.
Yeah, none of this s.h.i.t matters. Our market sucks no matter what the fanboys say.ragtimejoe1 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 16, 2023 10:25 pm" According to data provided to Front Office Sports (FOS), Ohio Bobcats’ win over the Wyoming Cowboys on 30th December brought in one million views in total. This includes 500,000 unique viewers, with the broadcast gaining a maximum of 130,000 concurrent viewers on Barstool’s website, app and social media channels, the FOS report said. "cowboyz wrote: ↑Wed Aug 16, 2023 9:48 pm The Birmingham Bowl (ECU vs Coastal Carolina) was the most watched G5 vs G5 bowl game last year - with 2.62 million viewers. For reference, the 50th most watched NON-NFL sporting event last year had 10 million viewers.
The Tulane vs USC Cotton Bowl (biggest bowl game with a G5 team) had just over 4 million viewers, less than half of any of the other NY6 bowls.
Of course the Arizona bowl we don't have any Nielsen ratings for since it was not on television.
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That's what I was pointing out, these numbers suck. While they are accurate, as compared to Nielsen's, which are just guesses, they are too low.
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Here's a couple of sites that helped me put viewership in context.
https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/colleg ... v-ratings/
CSU was a big surprise at #64, until I saw that 325K of their average viewership came from the Michigan game.
https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/colleg ... v-ratings/
CSU was a big surprise at #64, until I saw that 325K of their average viewership came from the Michigan game.