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Another lawsuit

They were so misled on the GCU addition although they already publicly announced they were leaving. Ha ha.

It’s really about the exit money they don’t want to pay. They are becoming financially desperate and are ticked off when they resigned they forfeited revenue distributions.

My guess is this lawsuit is a grasping at straws to delay the inevitable outcome which is scheduled for September 5.

How’s the big payday in the pee12 with that incomplete media deal???
 
The MWC accelerating the addition of GCU is going to come back to haunt them.

While I think the departing schools are overreacting a bit, they are right that they should have a say on if GCU can join the conference this year while they are still members of the conference.

I'm not clear to me what the MWC gains from adding GCU a year early, other than it being a bit of a parting shot at the schools that are leaving. It's a low blow move from the MWC. I don't like it and don't support the addition of GCU this year.
 
TheRealUW said:
The MWC accelerating the addition of GCU is going to come back to haunt them.

While I think the departing schools are overreacting a bit, they are right that they should have a say on if GCU can join the conference this year while they are still members of the conference.

I'm not clear to me what the MWC gains from adding GCU a year early, other than it being a bit of a parting shot at the schools that are leaving. It's a low blow move from the MWC. I don't like it and don't support the addition of GCU this year.
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The thing about the addition made after the official resignation letters is being used because it causes all the Olympic sports and basketball to play an additional conference game. The big thing is the lawsuit schools don’t like is the competition brings in the non-revenue sports along with a contender for a basketball post season spot.

The MWC also couldn’t work on anything regarding future contracts until the traitors left because they had voting rights until they resigned basically meaning they could have screwed the remaining MWC into a long term bad deal with their vote.

How much did the traitors play a part in making sure Texas State turned the MWC down leading to the pursuit of NIU instead?

There is a lot more behind the scenes going on and the posturing of the traitors is all about pursuit of bigger money and better competition by forcing the MWC into irrelevancy. The only way the pee12 really makes the chasm wider (if there really is a chasm) is to try and ruin the MWC financially by contesting the same by-laws they helped implement.

The traitors need to pay their fees and move on. Why only these 3 traitors and not all 5 in this new lawsuit? They should have filed it immediately. Just another desperate legal tactic IMO spurred on by the revenue sharing penalties the traitors created for themselves with the resignations.
 
Traitors are going to try and litigate this thing to death. They don’t want to pay the exit and poaching fees. From the outside looking in, this lawsuit screams desperation.
 
PorkerPoke said:
The thing about the addition made after the official resignation letters is being used because it causes all the Olympic sports and basketball to play an additional conference game. The big thing is the lawsuit schools don’t like is the competition brings in the non-revenue sports along with a contender for a basketball post season spot.

The MWC also couldn’t work on anything regarding future contracts until the traitors left because they had voting rights until they resigned basically meaning they could have screwed the remaining MWC into a long term bad deal with their vote.

How much did the traitors play a part in making sure Texas State turned the MWC down leading to the pursuit of NIU instead?

There is a lot more behind the scenes going on and the posturing of the traitors is all about pursuit of bigger money and better competition by forcing the MWC into irrelevancy. The only way the pee12 really makes the chasm wider (if there really is a chasm) is to try and ruin the MWC financially by contesting the same by-laws they helped implement.

The traitors need to pay their fees and move on. Why only these 3 traitors and not all 5 in this new lawsuit? They should have filed it immediately. Just another desperate legal tactic IMO spurred on by the revenue sharing penalties the traitors created for themselves with the resignations.
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I agree when it comes to the exit/poaching fees.

But the rushed addition of GCU is going to cost the MWC. Whatever fees the MWC is awarded, they are likely going to be paying a portion of it back due to this GCU thing. It wasn't a move that was necessary and will cost the MWC in legal fees and whatever judgment/settlement they come up with.
 
Keeping this in perspective, the lawsuit is not new. It was only amended to claim the addition of GCU “could” cost the traitors millions in costs.

Don’t forget at media days a month ago the MWC said they would cover all added costs for travel and scheduling with GCU.

The fact that GCU was added after the traitors resigned means that they had already resigned their vote in all future conference matters as of July 1, 2025.

The exit fee issue remains as the main lawsuit content. I cannot find the public update copy for the case 2024CV33874 which was originally filed on 12-16-2024. There is no hearing date set.
 
The college football world is watching. If the traitors are victorious, it will signal that exit penalties are unenforceable and the fallout would be seismic for realignmet.
 
PorkerPoke said:
The thing about the addition made after the official resignation letters is being used because it causes all the Olympic sports and basketball to play an additional conference game. The big thing is the lawsuit schools don’t like is the competition brings in the non-revenue sports along with a contender for a basketball post season spot.

The MWC also couldn’t work on anything regarding future contracts until the traitors left because they had voting rights until they resigned basically meaning they could have screwed the remaining MWC into a long term bad deal with their vote.

How much did the traitors play a part in making sure Texas State turned the MWC down leading to the pursuit of NIU instead?

There is a lot more behind the scenes going on and the posturing of the traitors is all about pursuit of bigger money and better competition by forcing the MWC into irrelevancy. The only way the pee12 really makes the chasm wider (if there really is a chasm) is to try and ruin the MWC financially by contesting the same by-laws they helped implement.

The traitors need to pay their fees and move on. Why only these 3 traitors and not all 5 in this new lawsuit? They should have filed it immediately. Just another desperate legal tactic IMO spurred on by the revenue sharing penalties the traitors created for themselves with the resignations.
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This makes sense. I have no doubt the traitors would have screwed the conference at every turn if they had the right to vote.

It’s desperation.
 
TheRealUW said:
The MWC accelerating the addition of GCU is going to come back to haunt them.

While I think the departing schools are overreacting a bit, they are right that they should have a say on if GCU can join the conference this year while they are still members of the conference.

I'm not clear to me what the MWC gains from adding GCU a year early, other than it being a bit of a parting shot at the schools that are leaving. It's a low blow move from the MWC. I don't like it and don't support the addition of GCU this year.
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I have no idea what the contracts would say about addition of schools to the conference. In no way would I agree this is a low blow. The conference needed to move on and build members based on those that left. To me they were looking at what’s best for the conference, vs, let’s add a bad basket ball school to screw the leaving traitors, oops meant members. GCU is a good addition for bb in my opinion.
 
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Itsux2beaewe said:
I have no idea what the contracts would say about addition of schools to the conference. In now way would I agree this is a low blow. The conference needed to move on and build members based on those that left. To me they were looking at what’s best for the conference, vs, let’s add a bad basket ball school to screw the leaving traitors, oops meant members. GCU is a good addition for bb in my opinion.
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But the MWC had GCU lined up to be added beginning in the fall of 2026. Why did they need to all of a sudden accelerate their addition up to fall of 2025?

I am assuming that the conference revenue will now be distributed amongst another school for this coming season. That has to be beyond just a minor financial set back for the departing schools and why I called it a low blow.

If GCU has agreed to forego conference revenue this season, then I take back everything I said. But I haven’t heard anything to suggest that is case.
 
TheRealUW said:
The MWC accelerating the addition of GCU is going to come back to haunt them.

While I think the departing schools are overreacting a bit, they are right that they should have a say on if GCU can join the conference this year while they are still members of the conference.

I'm not clear to me what the MWC gains from adding GCU a year early, other than it being a bit of a parting shot at the schools that are leaving. It's a low blow move from the MWC. I don't like it and don't support the addition of GCU this year.
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Nah....adding GCU was a move to get a foothold in the Phoenix market. With what WSU and OSU did to the remaining MWC members by refusing to honor the poaching agreement the MWC needs to play hard ball. No one respects weakness.
 
CajunPoke said:
Nah....adding GCU was a move to get a foothold in the Phoenix market. With what WSU and OSU did to the remaining MWC members by refusing to honor the poaching agreement the MWC needs to play hard ball. No one respects weakness.
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Strictly my own opinion, but I think the MWC thinking is they are hoping GCU will knock off both San Diego St and Boise in basketball. If for no other reason, to piss them off. Just sayin ...
 
GCU is not getting us the Phoenix market. During basketball season, they are way down the list behind Arizona State, University of Arizona, and the Phoenix Suns. They are usually an afterthought when it comes to TV broadcast news. The Lopes are only popular with their small circle.. that being said, I am glad they are in our conference. It gives me a chance to see Wyoming play in person once a year.
 
TheRealUW said:
But the MWC had GCU lined up to be added beginning in the fall of 2026. Why did they need to all of a sudden accelerate their addition up to fall of 2025?

I am assuming that the conference revenue will now be distributed amongst another school for this coming season. That has to be beyond just a minor financial set back for the departing schools and why I called it a low blow.

If GCU has agreed to forego conference revenue this season, then I take back everything I said. But I haven’t heard anything to suggest that is case.
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This isn't snarky; honest question. Do you know GCU side of the story? I honestly don't. Did they have some scheduling issue or was it something that was done to help them out?

If so, the MWC has a precedence here...wsu and osu. The pac defects need to stop bitching. Honor their contractual obligations and pay up.
 
To me, this is all about trying to gain leverage. They file this suit with the hopes that the MW will want to just settle the other PAC litigation and roll this action into the settlement.
 
ragtimejoe1 said:
This isn't snarky; honest question. Do you know GCU side of the story? I honestly don't. Did they have some scheduling issue or was it something that was done to help them out?

If so, the MWC has a precedence here...wsu and osu. The pac defects need to stop bitching. Honor their contractual obligations and pay up.
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I don’t really know why GCU would be so eager to get into the MWC one year early.

My assumption is that GCU stands to receive more revenue from the MWC than they would with the WAC. Therefore, it only makes sense for GCU to get into the MWC as quickly as possible because it means more money for them sooner.

What I don’t understand is why the MWC is so hell bent on getting them added in 2025. The MWC will have to rework league schedules for every sport GCU has a team in and have agreed to pay for travel to GCU for the departing schools. Why? What is the upside to the MWC to add them this year and incur these extra costs?

I’m thinking the MWC wanted to do it because it means less revenue for the departing schools in their last year with the MWC (same pie but now split one more way). They may also think GCU can prevent SDSU from winning the basketball championship on their way out - in my opinion, New Mexico has a much better shot at that than GCU does.
 
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